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[–] secretlyaddictedtolinux@lemmy.world -1 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Suicide attempts are a mental health crisis. In that moment that person is not of a sound mind and incapable of making that decision.

I disagree. Life can be awful and people can make rational decisions to die.

"Mental health crisis" and "incapable of making that decision" just are ways of saying "this person must be forced to give money to the mental health system through compliance with druggings and forced in-patient care that they will be billed for."

You're likely part of the mental health industry. Only one of "them" would think 30K in additional debt (paid to mental health workers/doctors) is always better than death.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I respect the right to die on your own terms, but when someone attempts suicide in such a public manner, and during the daytime with lots of bystanders around, I feel there's a chance they might want to be "saved."

Obviously following up and holistic support would be ideal. But even just putting myself in the shoes of someone walking by, I don't think I'd be able to just keep walking if I saw someone climbing over the ledge. Just in case.

I had a close older family member attempt when they were in their twenties. They're in their fifties and a ray of sunshine at family gatherings now. So you never know.

[–] secretlyaddictedtolinux@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Because religious people have criminalized dying by choice, especially with assistance, it is impossible to parse out impulsive attempts from those who have highly rational reasons for wanting to die.

The solution to this, and many other problems, is simple: ban all religions.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 4 points 10 hours ago

I feel like the religion is more a mirror on society. See how more educated populations skew secular. The mainstream just does what it wants, sometimes gesturing to religion as an excuse. IMHO, anyway. I'm no anthropologist.

I'm definitely in favour of assisted dying. I know if I was planning my death I'd rather have some help. Shame we can't get the churches involved — culturally, they're well situated to provide a lot of comfort to certain people.

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 0 points 9 hours ago

You're likely part of the mental health industry. Only one of "them" would think 30K in additional debt (paid to mental health workers/doctors) is always better than death.

Not even close lol. A lot of other people can think suicide is bad too.

I've seen a lot of loved ones and friends struggle, but they got through. The debt was definently an issue. I've seen friends worried to get treatment due to the fear of lost wages and the medical debt. It is hard, but they got help and it all worked out. I do agree that medical debt is terrible and shouldn't exist though.