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I enjoy job simulator type games and really like the aspect of decorating and taking something and improving it. I'm a sucker for visual progress and I'm comfortable with physical labor in real life, so why can I only do it in games and structured activities?

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[–] vettnerk@lemmy.ml 76 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (18 children)

Because a well designed game does not include drudgery. "Work-simulators" focus on results and progress and gloss over many of the hours of outright boredom or physical exertion to get there.

For example, truck driving simulator does not include the pain in the ass and boring part of loading or unloading the truck. Farming simulator does not include the painstaking process of removing rocks from the field.

While I grew up on a farm, my first proper career was something called OBC seismic. What it is isn't as important as the fact that it involved placing a 6km long sensor cable on the seabed with a winch and position it properly. To do this right requires practice, and as the principle is farly easy I wrote a small simulator that our trainees could try out. At first they found it interesting, and even the seniors from other departments enjoyed toying with it. The biggest lack of realism was that it didn't involve doing it for 12 hours straight, only stopping to unscrew 25 meter sections and replacing them. Barring drudgery and repetitive boredom could've probably made it an interesting game similar to other work simulators.

[–] Sammers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago (11 children)

I don't mind drudgery though. I've done real life construction work, I love legos, before I had internet I dug a hole in the backyard just to see how deep a hole I could dig. Progress being made is the goal sure but that doesn't make me shy away from the boring and frustrating parts. It's just that when it comes to decorating my apartment, cleaning my room, doing dishes, mowing lawns, whatever, I just can't find myself getting started in the first place rather than giving up partway through.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Is it a lack of motivation?

Walk us through what happens when you decide to do the dishes? What is the process for preparing? What actually happens?

Are you unable to force yourself to "just do it?"

Is this a constant issue and does it cause trouble for you in your life? E.g. always a pile of dirty dishes in the sink, can't have people over, etc?

[–] Sammers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

When I want to do dishes I usually start sitting at my desk or laying down on the couch or bed. Then I think about how if I want to eat later I'm going to have to do dishes because I'm out of clean plates/silverware/bowls/pots. Then I think about how I mind as well round up all the dishes in the apartment. Then I want to clean up the apartment. Then I usually start wanting to clean my room because it's gross. And then I think that I'm gross and should shower and brush my teeth. Then I get depressive and stay where I was feeling bad.

Sometimes I manage to power through and because the dishes are backed up so much I get the hot water going and let the dishes soak for a few minutes, then I have to overcome depressive thoughts again and do the dishes otherwise I sleep on the couch and the entire day has failed.

When I do manage to do dishes anyways I can only do so much until the drying rack is full, and when it's full I just drain the water and grab whatever I cleaned to make spaghetti or something.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Depression & shame is rough. I fight that all the time too. Both are very demotivating. Hopefully you will find the exercise helpful. I am trying to get back to that again too. I walked to the store and back (15 min, hills) Sunday. I didn't get a chance to do anything today. Will try again tomorrow.

[–] x2XS2L0U@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

What (sometimes) helps me in situations like that is exercise in a gym and a plan for the day that includes leaving the house. Most days are though tough.

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