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As a counterargument I'd like to point out that when there's enough pain present you might just want to tap out.
Especially now since one of the lovely American corporations decided to fuck up pain medication for those that truly needs it for decades at the minimum, because they just had to get that fucking profit.
I'm not even American and I'm on about a third of what I theoretically should be. My doctors admit this, but anything more and there's a risk of malpractice bullshit.
Hence, pain. Fuck that. I'll tap out when enough is enough.
The major flaw in your reasoning is that you're assuming that there's less pain on the other side. It could be better, but it could be much much worse, especially if you're carrying the regret of unfinished business left behind.
Other side? I'm sure when I get there the Easter Bunny will torture me no matter what I do, as is the custom, so why think about it?
Can someone please invent a religitard AI filter to just remove shit like this from webpages? I feel like editing out proselytizing cult sales pitches would be something AI could be great at.
The simplest explanation is that it's the same as before you were born. Can you see how a religious view might lead to unnecessary suffering in this life?
It's not a religious view - you folks need to take a step back and look at the argument, not your own inferences.
Spoken like a true cult member.
It's an unscientific view. Maybe in the afterlife you get to finally meet the Invisible Pink Unicorn, so what are you waiting for? When you weigh up all the imaginary possibilities, they add to just about zero.
If it's invisible it can't be pink.
Invisible just means you can't see it, not that it can't be pink. And rememeber, we're talking about a unicorn here.
If you can't see it, it can't be pink, unicorn or Pegasus.
You're both wrong. I've seen the unicorn and it's purple. There is only way. Follow me to the true purple Unicorn or face his wrath.
If there's any religion I had to adhere to it would probably be Buddhism, which I don't, really, except for the whole "we're born, we suffer and then we die" viewpoint. In that specific case it would only lead to more, albeit different suffering.
Unless you've experienced daily pain on the side of 5+ for over a decade straight I don't really give a shit about what you think though, especially if it is because of some religious belief.
I have a few regrets, but no unfinished business I care that much about. If he wasn't already an alcoholic wreck I'd beat the shit out of my abusive asshole of an excuse for a father, but that's about it.
You might believe there’s another side but that’s not important to this situation. You’re projecting your personal beliefs on others.
Literally the entire point of my comment is "we don't know". Don't put words in other people's mouths, and understand that it's bad form to attempt to make straw man arguments when you have nothing to contribute to the conversation.
"we don't know" is scientific equivalency, like
On the one hand 99 scientists think global warming is real
On the other hand here's a Maggat "scientist" in a red hat from Bob Jones university with a Ph.D in religious studies and geology who thinks everything is okay.
There's nothing to indicate any human experience is not the result of biochemical processes and that brain death doesn't end consciousness.
"We don't know" = how to tell me you're a religious cult member without telling me you're a religious cult member
Well this thread has proven conclusively that atheists are just as closed minded as religious folk. I've never seen so many angry idiots argue for suicide.
I'll spell it out one more time for you dumbfucks and then I'm blocking all your asses.
There is no scientific consensus on what happens to the consciousness after death. Period.
It could just end. It could also mean that you lay there helplessly experiencing the absolute pain of every cell dying, rotting and being consumed as it decays.
It could be that you find yourself trying to justify your sins to Anubis. It could be that you end up in Valhalla.
We simply don't know. And that makes the risk assessment of the action of suicide (as a relief from the pain of living) volatile to the point where the possible gain in pain relief isn't worth the loss of your life.
That's it. That's my entire argument. It's not Christian, it's not scientific. It's fucking assessing a gambling risk. Grow up and get your collective heads out of your asses - the moral grandstanding because you "suspect'' I might have a religious view is fucking idiotic and obnoxious - you're no better than the Christians you think you're preaching against.
I'll do no such thing!
This is a memes forum. You're making some very strong assumptions about the people here. Not a single person in this thread has identified themselves with a religion. This is still you projecting your beliefs on the world instead of listening to others.
This is not a scientific question. This is a metaphysical question.
lol more projection. “We don’t know” is exactly like “both sides do it”.
So then do you know? Seeing as you think you're psychic and all....
lol lol moving the goal posts. Now I have to PROVE my position to you while yours is the default and requires no further discussion. I haven’t had a conversation like this since I was on reddit.
You are the definition of toxic
Prove my cult beliefs are wrong! Oh, you can't? Well then they must be true.
Whenever logic is this flawed, religion is always the rotten unseen core of the thinking.
Agreed. This person can't get past "my default religious belief is therefore you have an extra burden to prove me wrong".