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"The Constitution is clear," Miller told reporters outside the White House. "The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus can be suspended in a time of invasion. So, to say that's an option we're actively looking at ... a lot of it depends on whether the courts do the right thing or not."

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[–] Binky@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Step one for full dictatorship.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] GeneralSwitch2Boycott@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Counterpoint: the US has been one step away from being outwardly fascist since at least Bush Jr.

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Andrew Jackson was probably closer than Bush

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

this is a norms-pilled analysis, the material strength of the players was very different in that period. if states had actually opposed Jackson he'd have been fucked, the federals didn't have the strength to militarily overwhelm even one state, but none of the state governments, especially those concerned with the ruling, cared to.

by the time of bush (and this had been the case since truman or thereabouts), the federal government, and executive office had assumed absolute soverignty.

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The thought occurred to me as soon as I made the comment lol Wilson was a better example.

Also I have no idea what norms-pilled mean. I have trouble keeping up with these things.

Edit: Jackson did plant the seeds though. The Nullification crisis was all about his willingness to use military force against South Carolina for opposing his tariff. Would he have been fucked if he had planned to do what he intended to? Henry Clay seemed to think that South Carolina would have been fucked had the compromise not pulled through.

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

norms-pilled just means the a focus on the forms of democracy to a neglect of the material situation--the constitutional/legal violations of jackson and trump are the same, but the latter has much more actual power.

but yes jackson planted the seeds, I think some of those fascists doing unitary executive theory use his example.

nullification is interesting because the prevailing interpretation is that Jackson avoided a civil war by his conduct, and whatever the man actually thought he was constrained by a political reality of the feds being weaker than states. Could 2,000 regulars have taken Charleston? yeah. could those 2,000 defeat NC, GA, whoever else decided the response to SC was an overreach? Mind the North did not like Jackson so much as Lincoln.

His naval solution to the Nullification, and the gracious settlement after was a very adept way to handle it while avoiding escalation

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

That isn't contrary to my point

[–] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

Always has been