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Some 125 Indian and Pakistani fighter jets battled for over an hour in one of the biggest dogfights in recent history, according to a Pakistani security source quoted by CNN.

If the numbers of aircraft were confirmed, it would make it one of the largest air battles since World War Two.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 135 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

On the off chance that you're not joking, what @Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works is pointing out:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogfight

A dogfight, or dog fight, is an aerial battle between fighter aircraft that is conducted at close range.

A "dogfight" isn't just a synonym for an air-to-air engagement, but specifically refers to a close-range one.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Has there been a actual dogfight since Vietnam?

[–] copd@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Falklands had several well documented ones. mirages vs harriers with aim9Ls, it didn't end well for the Argentines

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 15 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

There were some in the first gulf war. People forget but iraq had the sixth largest airforce at the time and were able to shoot down a couple American planes before being overwhelmed and fleeing to Iran.

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 hours ago

fleeing to Iran

That's ironic, given their war before.

[–] mx_smith@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago
[–] kozy138@lemm.ee -1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, if we consider that some long-range middle engagements are launched from thousand of miles away, surely 100mi can be considered 'close range' by comparison?

How long does it even take a jet to travel 100mi when going Mach 2 or 3?

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 hours ago

2-3 min at 8,000 m height.