Ukraine/Russia war (Europe). Israeli genocide of Palestine. Hezb/houthi resistance to Israel. Whatever is going on in Syria. (Middle East). Sudanese genocide with similar small resistance pockets. (Africa). Now India and Pakistan (asia).

We are in the early stages of WW3. Loose allyships are already being revealed.

With the widening rift between the US and China, I imagine Taiwan will become a hot issue soon as well.

That's probably the tipping point at which, allyships will start to be formed more concretely as China has been trying to stay out of things for the most part so far.

[–] Docker@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

We're in the hot stages of WWIII.

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Also the civil war in Myanmar that is ongoing. With various degrees of Chinese and Russian involvement.

[–] Docker@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You're from Burma ??

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 hours ago

I have family in Thailand with ancestors on Mom's side that came from Burma.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm still wondering when American balkanization will happen. If WW3 isn't in full swing yet by then, it will be afterwards.

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 14 points 1 day ago

It's gotta be getting close now, it feels like a breaking point is coming for America really soon.

[–] dryfter@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

From my standpoint as an American citizen of at least 3 generations, I don't think balkanization will be happen here, just because the divisions aren't neatly aligned as of 2020.

Cities tend to be Democrat, rural areas tend to be Republican -- regardless of state. It's not like the Civil War where it was more easily divided.

What's more likely to happen is a full on economic collapse soon. Where things go from there is anyone's guess -- but I don't see balkanization as a part of it. If Trump and team declare martial law and start doing even more human atrocities it might be the spark for WW3. Does that happen before China attacks Taiwan and start WW3?

Regardless of what happens, this is going to be ugly and a whole lot of people are going to die.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

If the US balkanizes, "Democrat" and "Republican" isn't where the split will happen. Less than half the voting population even identifies with either party, ffs.

There's plenty of cultural, religious and legal splits that could lead to a split. California is the obvious example, which would have to split with or take over Nevada and Colorado for the river and the dam. Texans has never been shy about longing for their own microstate and the swamp south has about as much in common with Seattle or Illinois as they do with British Columbia, if that.

[–] Docker@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

What is balkanisation ??

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 0 points 1 day ago

It seems pretty aligned. The bigots are in the center

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

With how everything is currently structured, I don't think it's too likely. The people of the individual states that would balkanize, still too strongly believe in a united American nation. The federal government would also have to significantly weaken itself and it's own powers, and it currently seems to be further centralizing and strengthening itself without regard to and in opposition to it's people's political rights and powers.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The government that is currently considering layoffs for a big chunk of the CIA, the bedrock of anti-insurgency? The one that just jettisoned USAID and has put vampire appointments on every federal regulatory body? Is that what centralizing and strengthening itself looks like?

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago

Oh I don't discount insurgency being a thing, that I think is very likely. I'm just saying that the balkanization process, I don't see happening for a long time. Balkanization I think sorta implies strong state governors trying to secede. That takes time. That takes drumming up the state nationalisms of Californians, Minnesotans, etc. That takes a radical social movement and drift away from the American identity and culture, and developing one's own within ones state. Insurgency, probable, balkanization, not yet.