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On any of the donation threads where it came up and he replied to it, the most he ever did was some half hearted corporate PR "apology" (ironic)
Technically, they are controversial. There are people who support your right to live and there are people who dont support it
If half of humans thought water was dangerous, drinking water would be a controversial topic
Its not black and white like that. There are people who support trans people but are concerned about the medicine and psychology, considering how young and mistake prone those fields are. Keep in mind there was a time where labotomies were defended in a similar way.
I don't think taking HRT and getting a literal lobotomy are equal...
Probably not 1:1 but the point is that its risky when medicine moves too quickly, and human ego has proven to be an extremely potent force. I use extreme examples to make a point.
Mainly what concerns me right now is that people who have concerns or questions about the medicine or science are routinely harassed and/or banned from trans communities. That, and the amount of faith the general public has in our understanding of psychology.
Healthcare has been moving in this direction since at least... oh, that's right, the Third Reich. It's not moving too fast right now, it's been moving too slow for the last century.
Which trans communities? There are some that are open to educating others. There are some that are not. It is absolutely not a trans person or community's responsibility to educate you, and sometimes people want to have a space to exist without constantly justifying that existence to others. Even good faith questions can be exhausting when it's your life that is being questioned.
Exactly what questions do you consider to be valid, good faith questions, presented to people or communities that are open to this discussion, and yet result in harassment?
Even this attitude of educating others, like every trans person is suddenly an expert in psychology or something. The way you frame it furthers the exclusivity of the group, which is odd to me because I would think trans people would want more people in their communities.
I'm not interested in going over specific instances with you, sorry. If thats what you need then you win the argument.
The education isn't a teacher to a student. It's a person revealing their life experience to others. Maybe they don't want to constantly talk about their life experience with people who might not understand.
Why would you think that should be a universal thing, for communities to want to constantly expand and include people that may not share the same values as the community?
Would you expect every religious person to answer every concern or question that you have about their religion? Would you walk into a church, and expect the average parishioner to hear your concerns about the afterlife, and questions about inconsistencies in the bible?
If you don't know how to sew, and will never sew a garment in your life, would you walk into a sewing club and expect them to welcome you in?
Or would you understand that maybe they're in their own place, and don't want to talk to you?
I repeat:
because the science is there and they keep dringing up the one study that has been wildly discredited.
elaborate?
What science? Which field? I'm not talking about disagreeing over whether gender dysphoria exists, I know it does. The discussion to be had is ehat can we do to fix and/or prevent it from happening. Its very hard to have these conversations in trans spaces though.
That's because those conversations belong in healthcare spaces. Academic spaces. Political spaces.
Would you walk into an NA meeting, and expect them to welcome you and talk to you about the fentanyl crisis?
There are also people who arent on either extreme, but that doesnt really matter in the context of deciding if a subject is controversial or not