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NOTE: This thread concerns the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement; not internal combustion engines.

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone -5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why only ICE vehicles? EVs might be marginally better, but cars are still cars, and they kill hundreds of people every year, cost billions of dollars in direct infrastructure costs (in the huge subsidies that roads get), and untold amounts more in indirect infrastructure costs (because of how inefficient low-density car-centric sprawl is wrt things like sewerage and other municipal infrastructure). Over about 20 km/h the noise pollution is roughly equally bad, and the plastic pollution from tyres is just as bad if not worse on EVs.

What's needed isn't to push people from ICE vehicles onto EVs, it's to encourage people to use (and more importantly, governments to support) active transport like walking and cycling first and foremost, with public transport for longer journeys.

I'm also not a big fan of that sort of indiscriminate vandalism anyway. I'm not gonna bat an eye if you're doing it to all yank tanks, but people's sedans and hatchbacks? That's a bit much, IMO.

[–] Radin@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ICE as in “Immigration and Customs Enforcement” not internal combustion engine.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, I see. That seems...very non-obvious, given it only refers to "ICE vehicles", and a certain subset of ICE vehicles are a popular target for vandalism because of their association with the kind of person likely to be a fan of the ICE government department (and because of their even greater overall societal harm than regular vehicles).

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 17 points 1 day ago

I think a lot of folks assume everyone around the world keeps up with our stupid timeline and alphabet agencies here in the US.