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Hey speedcubers! Do you think it is really possible to be sub12 and do a sub7 solve with only 3LL method?
Fake or real?

'cause I saw this profil on Reddit :

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[–] jxk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Unlikely, but if they are really bad at LL and otherwise excellent, maybe

[–] l_inadapte@framapiaf.org 3 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

@jxk
Or the cuber knows something like 50/57 OLL and for him/her, it's not full OLL 🤷

[–] thisisdee@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Yep, at my best I was sub-13 with a 7s PB, and I don't know full OLL so I consider myself 2.5-3LLL. I'm not particularly efficient or have high TPS so I think it's entirely possible

[–] l_inadapte@framapiaf.org 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@thisisdee
Interesting, and crazy.
I didn't think it was possible.

But, maybe we would realize better if we all indicated exactly the number of OLLs. Cause:

2-look OLL = 7 cases
half of OLL = 28 cases

Knowing 20 more OLL cases can do a big time difference, you do not believe?

[–] thisisdee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah it could be, but it might be dependent on which cases too maybe? I don't even know how many OLLs I know/don't know since I've stopped learning new ones a while back. What's funny is I thought I knew most of OLLs so I considered myself 2.5LLL and then when I actually counted I've only learned about half, so maybe for that person that counts as 3LLL.

I just learned the ones that were easier to identify first. So maybe if that other cuber decided to learn ones that give them better efficiency, or higher probability of being used, then maybe you can shave off a bit of time.

[–] l_inadapte@framapiaf.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@thisisdee
I agree, it depends on how we count our OLLs and their efficiency.

And you know what? I found a new prodigy:

Reddit cuber profil: Sub-17 with CFOP 4LLL method! PB: 9.97

[–] l_inadapte@framapiaf.org 1 points 2 days ago

@thisisdee
i thought we never talk about experience and the total number of solves.
Did the cuber do 1 000 solves in his life? Or 10 000? Or 100 000?

That's an important point.

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