this post was submitted on 04 May 2025
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~~They will also delete any comments that complain about AI at all, even though there is no rule against it.~~

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After second look, that's not entirely true, but they definitely have a trigger finger for it and leave plenty of other "off-topic" comments.

Considering the amount of posts deleted, it should have just been locked instead of nuking comments with a negative view of AI

Here's the thread in the screenshot:
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/43426671/18476015

Also, here you can see other's seem to think this was an attempt to silence dissent (though, I don't think that this coming from drag is a great point for it):
https://lemmy.ca/post/43313594

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Just look at this completely insane comment from an instance admin:

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[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I believe that as it currently stands, AI is too closely tied to big corporations, especially for the average person. So, without specifically including the caveat of "this thing was generated using an open source, locally run model" or something along those lines, it's reasonable to assume it was generated by using big corp-run AI giving them more data and power over the individuals. I also think giving too much credence to AI gives the big techbro AI bubble more value and power. Additionally, AI makes it exceedingly easy for low-quality or nefarious content to proliferate and effectively choke-out thoughtful content, similar to how misinformation/disinformation takes over factual information. Like I mentioned, I agree that 'AI is just a tool', but that doesn't exclude it from being extremely frequently abused, which then puts a sour taste in my mouth. I could go on for why I tend to dislike AI in general while acknowledging what possible benefits there may be for it. None of my reasoning is founded on any of the claims db0 users were trying to force onto me.

According to your fellow admin and other very loud and rude users from db0 (whose behaviors have been validated by the same admin), that makes me a "right-wing neoliberal". Instead of engaging in a discussion about it, those people instead berated me and kept pushing the same idea.

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To add to this, I think a big contention point is that there is no rule against stating that you don't like AI or reasons to dislike AI, but the user's hostility were a reaction as if that were the case. If there were an instance or community rule for that, then these reactions would be understandable (though, still an overreaction IMO).

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It seems to me that if you go to a community and are rude about the memes being shared you should be able to take some rudeness back.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
  • Goes into a community.
  • Ignores the rules and community and says they're wrong for doing something in their free time on their own space.
  • Gets the rules applied to them and told to stop, golden rule is applied to them when they were being rude in the first place.
  • Complains about mod abuse on another community, claiming victim that rules were enforced on them.

Can we leave the "I have my first amendment rights to say anything I want, anywhere I want!" reddit bullshit on reddit? I know lemmy.world is Reddit 2 but man this is weird.

[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I would agree with you if the rudeness was at a similar level, or if the claims made in response weren't absolutely unfounded.

Not to mention a moderator, let alone an admin, should be held to a higher standard.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

We're anarchists. We absolutely demand to be held at the same standard as everyone else.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I also think giving too much credence to AI gives the big techbro AI bubble more value and power. Additionally, AI makes it exceedingly easy for low-quality or nefarious content to proliferate and effectively choke-out thoughtful content, similar to how misinformation/disinformation takes over factual information.

You say two contradictory things -- that we shouldn't give AI credence, but also that it's dangerous.

[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't see how those are mutually exclusive points.

By "too much credence" I mean giving it more credit than it deserves. As in making it seem like it can do more than it's currently capable of. "Too much" does not mean "any".

Just like misinformation and disinformation, the information itself should not be given any credence, but the impacts of spreading it is that it takes significantly more effort to counteract than it does to spread it. In the case of AI, giving the same level of a platform provides an easy entry for low-quality or false-information content that's AI generated to overpower more thoughtful content at a rate that is difficult to combat.