this post was submitted on 04 May 2025
130 points (78.3% liked)
Fuck AI
2615 readers
864 users here now
"We did it, Patrick! We made a technological breakthrough!"
A place for all those who loathe AI to discuss things, post articles, and ridicule the AI hype. Proud supporter of working people. And proud booer of SXSW 2024.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
No. To put it very simply, having an opinion about something is not reactionary. It seems you are distilling down the concept of "reactionary" too much, and by that definition any human interaction is "reactionary" which makes it lose any meaning and then becomes a useless term.
You really don't need to see any more than what's provided to see how clear it is that I'm not talking past anyone, considering how insane the take is from the start.
But, here's an overview:
It may be my ASD, perhaps I didn't explain clearly. Let's try an absurdist example. I have a thing here. I will not tell you it's name or describe it to you. What is your opinion of this "thing"? Is it the best of it's kind of thing? The worst? Maybe it's just average. Perhaps I'm holding a literal piece of shit. You can't know. So can you form any sort if concrete opinion about it, without having anything to react to? Logic would say no. Now if I showed it to you and let you react to it and form an opinion about it. Is that a bad thing? No. Of course not. Now what if you used your reaction/opinion of this specific thing to judge all future remotely similar things without consideration? Could that be a negative? Absolutely.
Having a reaction is normal and human. Humans are reactionary by necessity/nature. As is using those reactions as assistance in future decisions. Nothing wrong with any of that right. The problem creeps up when we let the reactions/opinions control us. And honestly, so far talking to you I haven't gotten any sense of problematic reactionary nature. ๐คทโโ๏ธ But I think we probably could both acknowledge that there are some attitudes around this topic that are on many sides. I mean after all that was kind of my whole point for even posting here. Just to understand if this was just a reactionary community that was against all machine learning and AI just for the sake of it. Or if it was more focused on the current negative Tech bro b*******. And so far I'm thinking it's more the latter.
No, I'm certain I understand what you're trying to say. It's an overly distilled idea of the term "reactionary" to be "any kind of reaction". You're describing having a "reaction" in the sense of responding to information or stimulus, but that's not what "reactionary" means.
It means being excessively predisposed to having a negative reaction, or to immediately jump to a negative reaction to some sort of change. It's specifically negative in its definition. That's why I say it's an opinion, because it's pushing a specific characterization that having any negative opinion of AI means you are merely acting based on an initial negative reaction, possibly or even likely based on a resistance to change, rather than having an opinion based on a real consideration of the idea and the circumstances around it.