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[–] seeigel@feddit.org 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It's definitely not a deliberate misunderstanding.

consumerism is driven by a necessity for Capitalists to sell more commodities. It isn’t the choice of individuals, but the underlying Capitalist system

Yes. By the same logic, Capitalists need consumers to stay calm and to not change the system.

How can the Capitalist system be changed if people don't act on individual choices?

Finally, Leftists do reach people, with action. It isn’t a “trap.”

They reach some. Do they reach enough?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I wasn't suggesting it was deliberate, my point is more that if you want to discuss a subject, you ought to familiarize yourself with it prior to forming an opinion.

Capitalists do need workers to not revolt, yes. Leftists acknowledge this, there are various methods Capitalists employ, like bribery through sharing the spoils of Imperialism with the Working Class. That doesn't mean right-wingers have valid points.

As for if enough people are reached, yes, increasingly as time goes on. I'm not sure what your point here is.

[–] seeigel@feddit.org 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

My point is that the Capitalists manage the rate at which workers learn about the left point of view so that the chance of them reaching a ctitical mass for change is very low.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 15 hours ago

Capitalists use control of media, yes. That doesn't mean accepting right-wing analysis is correct, and that doesn't mean Leftist ideas aren't spreading.