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Wow little snowflake children can't handle [checks notes] being abducted by someone with a gun???

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[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'll need to see this. Not that I don't trust you but I need to see the science tbh.

[–] Sphere@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, looking into it further, there seems to be more recent research (from 2022) that contradicts what I recall reading sometime prior to that (somewhere around 2010 or so, iirc).

It seems like a lot comes down to definitions, too--my own college fraternity was a no-hazing organization, but I do recall seeing some stuff in the mandatory online class nationals made us take that said certain things we did counted as hazing (giving initiates nicknames, for one, and anything involving alcohol at all for another, even if non-alcoholic options were made available), so where one draws the line is likely to affect the results of any effort to study the effects.

I think it probably also depends on what the hazing entails - making the newbys complete some miserable gruelling physical activity followed by everyone getting drunk together - probably pretty damn good bonding. The new people have done something unpleasant and demonstrated a level of commitment to the cause, and then everyone has cut loose together showing some vulnerability (from intoxication) within each others company - that really will bond people.

If your hazing is forcing new people to get really drunk and then sexual abusing them (which is what a lot of American college hazings seem to be)- I don’t think that’s good (on any level). It may have some bonding affect for the perpetrators but for the victims? I’m not sure. Maybe when they turn perpetrators the following year they would get a delayed bonding affect? Either way that’s not good.