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A new court filing has revealed “hundreds of threatening, harassing, disparaging and antisemitic” threats made to Judge Arthur Engoron, who is currently presiding over the civil fraud trial of former President Donald Trump in New York and trying to get the gag order he imposed against Trump reinstated.

Trump already violated Engoron’s gag order twice, costing him $15,000. An appeals court paused the order last week, citing Trump’s “constitutional and statutory rights.” But the threats have caused serious security concerns for Engoron and his staff, especially his principal law clerk Allison Greenfield.

One voicemail, according to an affidavit filed by court officer Captain Charles Hollon, stated: “Trust me. Trust me when I say this. I will come for you. I don’t care. Ain’t nobody gonna stop me either.” Another said: “Resign now, you dirty, treasonous piece of trash snake. We are going to get you and anyone of you dirty, backstabbing, lying, cheating American. You are nothing but a bunch of communists. We are coming to remove you permanently.”

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[–] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Talk is cheap, anyone can talk shit behind a phone or computer

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It doesn't matter how cheap the speech is or whether few of them would actually turn their talk into action. The death threats themselves are serious even if none of these people intend to act on it. Also, these threats are illegal whether or not these people intend to act on it. Finally, all it takes is one person who decides to act on Trump's marching orders.

If you were getting these threats, would you be resting easy with the thought that most of these people wouldn't come to your home (which they'd know the address of)? Or would you - more likely - be afraid to go home or answer your phone?

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

They keep imagining he has some shred of human decency. This is mob shit. The courts need to stop treating him like he's not a mob boss.

[–] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Let's throw them in jail. Yeah I'd be scared to answer my phone??(most likely)

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They did storm the US capitol alley being told to take the country back in "trial by combat."

They did shoot Gabby Giffords after conservative propaganda that literally drew a crosshair on her.

They did try to kidnap a governor.

They did take over a federal building and receive no punishment.

[–] Kleinbonum@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, that's always been Trump's play: talk a big game from a veeery safe distance, and incite other people to do his dirty work for him.

"I'll be right there with you" my ass.

The issue - as January 6th has shown - is that there are enough insurgents and domestic terrorists who are willing to commit violence on Trump's behalf.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

This is why the call to GA was such a massive fuckup for him. He made that call personally, and he's reaping the consequences of getting his own hands dirty.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it worth taking that risk?

[–] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is what worth taking that risk? What I'm saying is most people who are actually serious don't usually give a heads up..

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think your opinion of the sanity of Trump's followers is too high. At best, they hide in Telegram channels and think that's ample obfuscation for their scheming.

[–] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You are probably right LOL