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[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

How is joker an incel reference? O.o

[–] CreativeShotgun@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

He's one of those pseudo icons or idols of weird guys who think being edgy or "deranged" is cool.

[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Honestly I am somewhat confused too. I think the joker movie joker is kinda incel ref because he is kinda an incel and kinda hates women (I don't remember the movie too well)

That seems to be the dark knight joker tho. So idk.

And honestly dark knight joker is amazing. Like I like the movie because the joker is a great villain in this movie.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I think even calling Phoenix's Joker incel is bit of a stretch. I've also only seen it long ago in theater, but I recall there was only a small part his imagined romance but it was only small contributor or result of his mental issues, and his hate was more so on the people abusing him, didn't really strike me as a woman hating incel in any way

[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago

I am not arguing that he is and I don't think the people calling it a incel ref are saying that he is. I think they are saying that he is weirdly deli about a woman and is popular with a lot of incels because he is relatable for them. (Hating society is a way and kinda delulu about women)

Also I want to repeat, I might misremember stuff.

[–] aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

This is correct but if you check the media coverage (even before the movie came out) there was def this narrative being pushed. I think it's because libs were uncomfortable with how the movie portrayed class struggle so they latched onto this aspect

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't think the joker hated women at all in Joker. As far as I remember his attitude to both genders is the same.

[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Maybe I misremember but he was kinda delulu about a woman, no?

[–] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Are you typing delulu because you can't spell delusional? Or is this a new cool trendy thing I'm too old to know about?

[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago

Thanks, I'm often too old to know the cool new thing.

I appreciate it and look forward to using it in the future.