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Fuck the stupid morons who defend Apple.

Imagine if Microsoft banned Windows users from installing the software they want on their computer.

Imagine if Microsoft required all software developers to give them 30% of their earning or Microsoft will ban them from Windows

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[–] Eggyhead@lemmings.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Microsoft does with their Xbox, though. Don’t they?

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes but I don’t believe consoles are a target of the DMA or this investigation. While would be nice if consoles were opened up and forced to allow side loading and alternative stores, I think there’s an argument that they’re single purpose appliances - a PlayStation is sold to you with the intention of it being a gaming box and not much else.

A smartphone or tablet though is at this point a general purpose computer, and it’s reasonable to expect to have the same freedoms and open environment that you would on a PC. And Apple’s argument that they can’t open up the iPhone because security or whatever doesn’t really hold water, because the Mac exists and is both secure and open.

[–] Eggyhead@lemmings.world 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

The original argument compares windows to iOS, but gets weaker when comparing windows to macOS, which is still pretty corralled, but more or less open.

I asked about Xbox because Microsoft doesn’t sell a phone, and Xbox is an example of a Microsoft-run closed ecosystem. So I was curious about how their closed ecosystems compared.

If Microsoft sold a phone, I wonder if it would actually be more open like windows and Mac, or closed like their own XBox and the iPhone.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 2 points 11 hours ago

Well, they used to sell one, right? Windows Phone used to be a thing. As I recall though, it was equally locked down with an app store as the sole distribution method.

[–] imecth@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago

Microsoft is actually the least problematic of the console racket (Sony, Nintendo and MS), games release simultaneously to pc and they offer cross compatibility. Maybe the EU will address it eventually, but i guess mobile takes precedent given that everyone has a cell phone.