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He gave JD Vance three chocolate easter eggs, exchanged pleasantries for 17 minutes, and then keeled over and died.

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[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 50 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (7 children)

Has it ever been more over for Zelenskyy? His delegation can chat as much as he likes with the useless Europeans, but that will not accomplish much.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 24 points 6 hours ago

Barack H U S S E I N Obamna

[–] Boise_Idaho@hexbear.net 12 points 6 hours ago

Just twisting the knife.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 22 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

usa selling weapons to euros, while side dealing with russia, as prophecy foretold.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 14 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

So Europe gives existing stocks of weapons to Ukraine, and buys new American weapons and restarts domestic defence industry to re-arm themselves? That's going to be an extremely tough sell to the western Europeans. The welfare state will be completely destroyed. American healthcare will be the best in the world by the time that plan is finished.

[–] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 6 points 4 hours ago

That's going to be an extremely tough sell to the western Europeans. The welfare state will be completely destroyed

The European establishment already has countless demonic articles lined up to try and manufacture consent about this sort of thing, although I'm not sure how effective they'll be - likely it'll be another contributing factor in right wing populist parties running on a vague anti war ticket winning in landslides in most European countries in the foreseeable future although how willing those parties will be to actually break with the US and NATO remains to be seen.

[–] Lemister@hexbear.net 3 points 4 hours ago

America already blew up nordstream 2 without any consequences, besides france, which is also struggling, no one in western europe will offer resistance.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 16 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Buying american to ship to ukraine via debt, on individual country level it won't fly (although germans and brits are particularly unhinged), but euro commission could swing like 50 billion a year, especially if the porky escapes into eurobonds. I know frenchies and geramns are constantly whining that they should buy european, but eh, countries make do.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 12 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

That would still destroy the welfare state if done at the level required to keep Ukraine from collapsing, buying American weapons to hand to Ukraine.

And can those high tech American weapons even be used without American support? I guess the Europeans could try jerry rig them to function independently, in the same way they've helped Ukraine jerry rig their Soviet aircraft to launch European and American weapons. But that would not be optimal.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 11 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

do you see germans, brits or french collapsing (by force) their government over this? they have like 2-3 years of unlimited power, toothless opposition (to this).

Frenchies literally ate increased retirement age to finance military, germans will go down even easier.

the biggest ticket items are like pac2 pac3 missiles for patriots, maybe bradleys, cause usa has fuckton of them, the rest is whatever, himars only i believe? they didn't ship jassm, and brits already do scalp rocket targeting.

the only big question is intelligence sharing in that configuration, otherwise seems completely workable.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

the biggest ticket items are like pac2 pac3 missiles for patriots, maybe bradleys, cause usa has fuckton of them, the rest is whatever, himars only i believe? they didn't ship jassm, and brits already do scalp rocket targeting.

There's also the 30 or so F-16AM fighter jets. And patriot is essential for high level air defence and anti ballistic missile defence at key locations. For this, Ukraine have patriot and the few S-300Vs and S-300Ps? We saw what happened to Sumy when Ukraine lost an S-300V battery, Russian Orion drones were able to go 10+km into Ukrainian airspace and Ukrainian positions in Kursk got bombed to bits. Does Europe have domestic ground based high level air defence systems? Ukraine got a total of one SAMP/T battery during the entire war. There's also APKWS with the VAMPIRE system which is important for taking out drones, the UK have offered their version of it to Ukraine, but it costs 10 times more per shot.

[–] SamotsvetyVIA@hexbear.net 14 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

what's he getting other than GBPs from his base with this tweet. just issue the order to rein in your dog instead of writing a shitty exposé. fuck me when will this empire crumble to dust.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 14 points 7 hours ago

It's Trump, he wants the order to reign in Zelenskyy to be public, for the spectacle, he's a reality TV show host after all. Same with his meeting with Zelenskyy in the White House.

[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 12 points 8 hours ago

Crazy how right he is

[–] starkillerfish@hexbear.net 10 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

what are the odds on a regime change next week

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 15 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

In the "leaked peace plan" Ukrainian elections (which would be heavily influenced and likey used to get rid of Zelensky and his constituents) are supposed to be held in August at the presidental level, and October for the parliament.

A forceful regime change during active war? I don't think so.

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 7 points 7 hours ago

Next week? Doubt it. This year, or early next? I'd bet on it.