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Thats a good answer. Yeah.
America for example. Is not a capitalism country someone said. But instead on a fucked up system that allows Richer people to become richer with votings theough banks and tons of other things. While poor people become poorer.
And every countey has capitalism. Thats the idea of owning something. Either its the country itself or some individual.
And Communism somehow stays as an idea sadly.
No. Capitalism = the bourgieoise rules.
Yep. That's pretty much exactly how I feel. American economics ispl pretty far from capitalism, having too few balanced regulations and allowing extremely one sided (wealthy) dominance of the market. Which is the exact opposite of a free market (one where every party in a transaction has equal and fair power in the negotiation. Free market has absolutely nothing to do with that nonsense about being free from regulations or government interference).
Do you mean anCapitalism when you say capitalism? The one with the NAP where your towns get overrun by bears?
No. The definition of capitalism has been utterly confused by politicians who couldn't steal and corrupt under its basic principles. Which makes it really freaking hard to explain the best practices for economics (as in what has been proven over and over again to work best overall) when every word is overlayed with a false definition. In reality democratic socialism is just a marketable name for what capitalism really is.
Capitalism is the idea that if the government doesn't own everyone, and everyone is free to work for their own living, and (here is the key part) there are laws and regulations to prevent anyone from taking advantage of anyone else (that's the free market part) then everyone will work together to create the best economy possible. One where there is no central planning (as opposed to a king appointing a Lord over an area), just everyone free to do whatever they do best.
Our current economy isn't capitalism. It is too far to the right into oligarchy (which gives corrupt control to a few and everyone else is unable to participate in the market freely) to be a free market economy. We absolutely must move to the left, introducing regulations and investing in public infrastructure and education to return to real capitalism. But I doubt there is any chance of that in our lifetimes. Not without some terrible revolution and all the failures that will bring before we return to sanity.
To be clear, I am not arguing for anything you probably associate with capitalism as being good or best. I am arguing that no one ever should have associated those things with capitalism, and that the misdirection was created decades ago so the wealthy could subjugate us under a manufactured income gap and economic oppression.