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Entryism doesn't work, the DNC colluded to kick even Bernie out, and he was a compromise.
I did, actually. The Clinton campaign still closed polls favoring Bernie, and the moderates opposing Biden dropped out and rallied around him while the progressives opposing Bernie remained, splitting the vote and favoring Biden. DNC shenanigans will always favor moderates.
The 2016 DNC shenanigans are pretty well-known.
You could read the article and see how the DNC colluded against Bernie, as well as the mass media machine working against him and for Clinton.
The US isn't a democracy.
For clarity, are you denying the collusion with clear evidence, or are you making the point that the collusion doesn't matter?
Gotcha, so you're denying the evidence, in favor of protecting a genocidal party of Imperialists from the criticism of the public they are supposed to earn the votes from.
I hate Trump, and I hate genocide. That's why I voted for a party that had neither.
Defeatism at its finest. With that attitude Bernie wouldn't even hold a seat or have gotten as close as he did.
It isn't defeatism, it's a recognition of failed strategy. Revolution is necessary.
Sure. And how do you imagine that is going to happen? Get real.
Revolution happens by taking over the system, organizing, bringing people together. Selling the ideas of the movement.
How do you imagine it? A small armed group of insurrectionists by bitter leftists that refuse to do the actual work of democracy. Democracy is people organizing from the bottom not accepting the system and sitting on the sidelines waiting for a socialist to be running for president.
It happens through working class organization, building support, protesting, and creating an organized movement, like what PSL is doing, and what other revolutionary groups have done throughout history in places like Russia, Cuba, China, etc.
Yeah Russia and China are great examples. Cuba you can blame on the capitalist interfere but if you think anyone wants to work towards the goal of being the Soviet Union or Communist China then you are living in a fantasy.
I agree with the first part though, since it's the same as what I said. But those organized movements are not moving towards an armed revolution as a realistic end goal.
The large majority of the population of post-Soviet states regret the dissolution of Socialism. Meanwhile, over 90% of Chinese citizens approve of their government, and are increadingly happy with the direction the country is heading in:
So no, this isn't fantasy. I've actually done the effort to dig into these systems critically, rather than just accept the standard Red Scare narrative.
Secondly, PSL is a revolutionary party, it outlines that on their party program:
Would it kill you to do the barest research on anything you talk about?
Oh I have done the research and you are living in a propaganda fantasy if you think Soviet Russia or Communist China are good, tankie. Peace and love.
Seems like the people who had it hate that Socialism is gone, and the ones who have it, love it. These make sense, given the massive benefits to the working class that come with Socialism.
So you are a white supremacist, desperately fighting to uphold your evil empire. All liberals are.