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[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's a good thing Trump won because Biden didn't do enough to forgive student loans, amirite?

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's a horrible thing Trump won.

But it was pretty much inevitable.

The Biden administration was weak, cowardly, and incompetent. It didn't understand - or refused to admit - how bad the US economy really was and how many people were struggling and suffering.

The student loan debacle exemplified the Biden administration's "strategy" on the economy, the environment, everything - make a half-ass attempt to slightly improve things, give up at the first challenge, and pat yourself on the back for trying.

The economic failures of the Weimar Republic pushed Germany into the arms of a fascist who promised security and prosperity.

The economic failures of the Biden administration did the same for America.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The economic failures of the Biden administration consisted of what, failing to have a populous who votes for a good legislative branch? The only thing he could have done differently is be a dictator and/or force the fcc to shut down and stiffle far right propoganda. Which would still be overreach, being a entity meant to be non partisan.

The economy bounced back from COVID. Wealth distribution was what was horrendous. A Republican majority Congress passed nothing to help with wealth distribution issues. For 1, because it helped get them back in office, and for 2 because they are mostly despicable people.

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The economic failures of the Biden administration consisted of what, failing to have a populous who votes for a good legislative branch?

"The people" are not an unchanging monolith. A Republican-led House and Senate were not a foregone conclusion.

If Joe Biden and his staff actually cared about getting stuff through Congress they would have been out stumping for local and state candidates every day in 2022, pushing a very simple message: here's our big ambitious plan, here's what we want to do, here's how it will make your life better, these senators and representatives are stopping us, give us the House and Senate and we will transform America for the better.

And if they failed to get the Congressional support they needed in 2022, Biden and Harris needed to come back in 2024 with that big ambitious plan, and tell Americans what they tried to do, and what they would do in their second term, and what they need from the American people to make that transformation, and go back out and stump in every single state in every single election in the United States to earn the people's support.

But to do that they needed an ambitious plan - a Green New Deal - that would genuinely help Americans. And they needed to admit the economy was failing and people were hurting.

Biden didn't have an ambitious plan. Biden didn't have any plan. Biden sat on his hands and pretended the biggest wealth transfer in history was actually good for American consumers and the economy was going great, and then Harris ran on that record in 2024 and refused to suggest anything she would have done different than Biden.

And of course she lost, because Trump did have an ambitious plan to transform America, and he convinced Americans his plan would leave them better off, and Americans looked at how they were better off under Trump's first term than they were under Biden and made the obvious choice.

We still live in a democracy. And blaming voters for making the wrong choice is a great way to permanent minority status. It was Biden's job - it was the job of the Democratic Party as a whole - to recognize the problems facing the American people, offer genuine solutions, and convince the American people to support their plan.

Don't blame the American people for Biden's failure to lead.

[–] VanillaFrosty@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's weird how Dems refuse to acknowledge it's a politicians job to get people to vote for them. They constantly just blame voters.

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It is weird. Except, thinking about it, it's not.

All sides of American politics have been encouraged to hate and fear other Americans who disagree with them politically.

So when liberals have a choice between blaming their own political leaders for fucking up, or blaming the conservative Americans they hate anyway, a lot of them will make the wrong choice. Just like conservatives do when their leaders fuck up.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I agree with everything you said except this:

And of course she lost, because Trump did have an ambitious plan to transform America, and he convinced Americans his plan would leave them better off, and Americans looked at how they were better off under Trump's first term than they were under Biden and made the obvious choice.

Trump never had a plan ambitious or otherwise. He has always been inherently reactionary, and what he does do unprompted is always a complete failure. Americans were demonstrably not better off under Trump's first term, at best they weren't any worse off, but nothing Trump did his first term helped the American public.

Trump has spent his entire political career being manipulated by various groups, be it project 2025, Putin, or Rupert Murdoch by way of Fox News. He's a giant toddler perpetually throwing a tantrum.

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 days ago

The plan was Project 2025. Trump didn't write it but he certainly followed it.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

While you are right lets not pretend a Democrat majority Congress would have changed a damn thing. Democrats have been economically conservative for decades now. The only thing the two parties really disagree on is social policies. Both parties are perfectly fine with an oligarchy running things.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee -1 points 3 days ago

This sounds like Russian propaganda. Putin is that you?