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This pissed me off so fucking much when people defend Christianity by saying that all of the bad shit is in the Old Testament and that the New Testament is totally fine.

1 Corinthians 6:9

"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,"

Gay people and gender non-conforming people are not allowed in to heaven

1 Peter 3:1

"Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands;"

It's still an extremely misogynistic book even in the new testament

Romans 1:26-27 ... 32

"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

...

Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."

Both homophobia and misogyny

I could go on and on, and I probably will in the comments, but it's pretty fucking clear that all the nasty bigoted shit in the book just doesn't go away in the New Testament

You cannot separate the bigotry from the Bible. The Bible is very clear that you cannot pick and chose, that you have to accept the full book or none of it, you can't just take the verses you like and still be Christian. To be a good Christian who follows the entire Bible you must be bigoted

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[–] TrustedFeline@hexbear.net 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

This is like when someone cherry picks a bunch of quotes from the Quran as evidence that islam is "incompatible" with western thought. Or when people point to the Hebrew bible and use it as evidence that all those who practice Judaism are genocidal

Religious practices often diverge wildly from the texts. I think you're making an OK theological argument, because the hypocrisy is clear. But as a political argument, you end up oversimplifying reality, and leave yourself open to very bigoted reasoning

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 32 points 23 hours ago

Islam is every bit as incompatible with communism as Christianity is. It is only by an accident of history that a good number of the currently-active anti-hegemonic movements in the world are Muslim, and therefore should have critical support.

[–] PeeNutButtHer@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not cherry picking when the Bible restates these ideas over and over again, these are far from the only homophobic verses in the Bible

[–] TrustedFeline@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Again, you're just ignoring reality if you think following a religion means believing every word and concept in its religious texts. Your reasoning is identical to islamophobic reasoning

[–] PeeNutButtHer@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I never said every Christian 100% believed everything in the Bible. What I'm saying is that the Bible is an evil book and people shouldn't believe a religion based off of it

[–] AnarchoAnarchist@hexbear.net 15 points 22 hours ago

What I'm saying is that the [Quran] is an evil book and people shouldn't believe a religion based off of it

Literally something my bigoted uncle has said.

[–] SmokinStalin@hexbear.net 11 points 22 hours ago

Yeah, but a religion based on following the footsteps of a radical progressive that was so hated by a corrupt money worshiping state that he had to be publically executed for rioting and destroying buisnesses.....

Earliest churches were basically communes.

Youd have more success deprogramming christians by focusing on how Jesus would absolutely be some sort of leftist/communist. Focus on how much he hated the rich. Every single gospel mentions multiple times Jesus railing against the rich, only one has him commenting on "the gays."

Then you can sit back and watch their own psyches do the rest.

If you can successfully pit their faith in God against their faith in capital. You get either a decent anticapitalist christian or a capitalist out of it.

Both outcomes open up way more paths for further radicalization than. "You're evil because of your religion. Thus your loved ones, entire family, and community are all evil too."(yes ik you didnt actually say that)

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I’m cherry picking Ezekiel 23:20 as the most banger passage in the entire bible

[–] TrustedFeline@hexbear.net 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

And the most badass is Ezekiel 25:17

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 20 hours ago

Can’t disagree there. There’s some good ones in Revelations too, but e23:20 has to be my best.

If only e6:21 was a thing.