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    [–] Yaky@slrpnk.net 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

    To configure most suckless tools you need to... recompile them. The readme says:

    Because dwm is customized through editing its source code, it's pointless to make binary packages of it. This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking stupid questions.

    But if you are trying to compile suckless tools, you are already in too deep.

    [–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 21 points 3 days ago

    Those dudes are lost in the sauce. Nobody should be using big endian these days

    [–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    Wow. Just wow. What a bunch of utter darlings. Just let them stew in their own idiocy.

    Edit: To clarify, I mean the people who wrote this readme.

    Acting like this is some impossible task is a bit of a stretch. It's 2 commands.

    [–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 1 points 2 days ago

    LOL yes, I had a look at those too when I was looking for a more minimal terminal. Noped the fuck out when I read you had to recompile the tools to configure them.

    It's not that this is beyond my skill level, but that is just so ... why would I want to do that?

    [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world -5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    You need to edit a C header file used as a config file, and run make and use the resulting executable file. That hardly keeps out anyone.

    At the same time DWM is very convenient, and so was WMII.

    [–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    I know how to compile my own software, but I'm not gonna fucking do it. I'll leave a comment where I can calling the devs lazy assholes (because they are) and move on with life, as will many others

    Because that's unnecessary elitism, and it's gross. Also, 1 step of extra work is bullshit and wastes human life for no fuckin reason

    [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

    If you've seen suckless tools, the whole point is that they are rudimentary. DWM is one header file and one source code file of ~2k lines.

    It's not lazy because having a config file wouldn't add anything to using those things, and it's not elitism or gross because it's not hard for those who understand why'd they use suckless tools at all. It also contributes to atmosphere.

    FFS, please stop trying to press other people to do things your way, that's what's gross.

    [–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    That keeps out 90% of the population. Do not underestimate how complex that is to people who aren't tech-savvy and who are used to "it just works".

    [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago

    Something having an X-Wing pic keeps out a lot of people too, cause not everyone likes Star Wars. What's your point?

    [–] Yaky@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I don't find it difficult, and have enjoyed sxmo on the PinePhone. I understand the suckless approach, but I do have to admit that many people that I know, even tech-savvy ones, probably would not want to rebuild to configure something.

    [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

    probably would not want to rebuild to configure something.

    It builds in a second. About DWM. It's 2k lines of C code, all they do is basic functionality. It's not some cumbersome process of setting up an environment, and then looking at running lines of compiler output as if you were some fscking Neo installing Gentoo.