I’d rather be under the rule of a hegemony that is composed of many different cultures and in the process of healing than one who is still actively genociding their minorities.

EDIT: Welp, I guess there is no war in Ba Sing Se. Ya'll are expert brigaders, well done.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If we pretend that what the USA does to its own people is acceptable, you still have to consider what it does to the rest of the world. I'm sorry, but in light of all the evidence, I see the US hegemony as evil. I also doubt the western media's portrayal of the Uyghur "genocide" and I don't agree that China is in the process of a Holocaust against its own people.

I'm lucky enough to have a job that puts me in contact with a lot of countries all over the global south of the world, and the general opinion from all of them is that China is a lot better prospect than old Western imperialism.

[–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Chinese propaganda made to counter the satellite images, testimony from victims, and video evidence consists of some YouTubers visiting the same handful of uncomfortably smiling Uyghur families under the careful eye of Chinese censors and fluff pieces that amount to “nuh-uh”.

China is trying to erase the culture of people within their borders, again, and there is a long tradition of this forced assimilation in China. They are not pluralistic, and don't want to be, and their attitude towards non-chinese within their borders lead me to have very low expectations on how they will treat minorities outside.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Imagine being from Canada and bleating about China trying to erase the culture of people. Projecting much?

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Go live there for a few years and tell us more on your way back.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A great way to tell us you're a chauvinist who doesn't know anybody who lives in China and never been there.

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It could be that. Or it could be the exact opposite (which it is, would you want to see my hukou?), and the fact that you can't tell the difference while thinking that you could and that it matters makes you an angry little person.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fact that all you ever do here is shit on China shows what your agenda is buddy. The only angry little person here is the one who can't say a single nice thing about a country that's lifting millions of people out of poverty each and every year.

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"agenda", I like how you make it sound like my posts are some kind of greater, organized operation or conspiracy. Projection maybe? Because between the two of us, you are the only one whose post history is consistently made of political activism disguised as news. Not that it automatically makes you a bad person, but you can't reasonably expect people to take you and your opinion seriously when you have the pretence to simultaneously speak from position of authority on geopolitical topics as broad as China, Russia, West Africa, North America, Central America, Eastern Europe, all at the same time. You should realize that you can't possibly have such a broad life exposure, or your time would be better invested outside of Lemmy, don't you think? The only reasonable alternative, and sad reality, is that you are just repeating talking points conveniently arranged for you and repeated inside your echo chamber.

As of me, I am equally entitled to my own opinions, equally partaking to information bubbles, with the difference that my life is actually forever bound to China and that I can legitimately pretend that I have something to contribute to that discussion. Unlike you, I am not brigading from a far-away continent. I don't "shit on China". Had you any idea of my situation, you wouldn't even think of saying something like that. You do may find that some of what I have to say on certain topics is contrary to your ideals, but so is China: it isn't the monolithic strong fortress people make it to be in the media (in either side of the discourse).

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

I'm actually pretty open about my political activism. I'm not disguising anything. Having grown up in USSR, and moved around the world a lot, I do think I have a much broader exposure than majority of people. The fact that you presume to know so much about me exposes the sad reality about you projecting what you know of yourself to be true onto others I'm afraid. I also love how you accuse me of doing what you yourself regularly do here, unless you'll have us believe that you have some deep expertise on the political situation in Africa. Seems to me that you're trying to speak from position of authority in comments such as this one, while clearly demonstrating utter lack of knowledge on the subject. I don't know why you felt the need to be "brigading" that far away continent.

Meanwhile, nowhere have I claimed that China is some monolithic strong fortress or that there aren't legitimate problems in China. My only claims has been that despite the problems China has, it shows a better alternative to what the west is doing. While you seem to be fixating on problems such as unlimited freedom of expression, that affects a tiny majority of the people, I'm looking at the problem of meeting the material needs of the people. China has done a far better job in ensuring that people have things like food, housing, education, and healthcare than the supposedly enlightened western liberal societies.

To sum up, you pretend to have some sort of high ground and sling feces at me, but the only difference is that you support western empire and all its horrors whether you realize it or not.