Socialism allows for both public and private ownership, individual freedoms, and democratic decision-making, while still aiming for social equality. Communism, in contrast, tends to involve total state control and often limits personal freedoms.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Both Capitalism and Socialism have room for public and private ownership, the difference is which sector controls the state, large firms, and key industries. The Nordic Countries are dominated by Private Capital, ie it is Capitalist, while the PRC is dominated by Public Ownership, ie it is Socialist.

Communism limits the personal freedoms of the bourgeoisie. All Communism is, is a more developed and global form of Socialism, where the small firms that once were private have all grown into the public sector or collapsed.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Tell me you've never read anything about communism that wasn't written by anti-communists without telling me you've never read anything about communism that wasn't written by anti-communists.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago

Jesus what a mess of a sentence. You really tried to hamfist that one in there.

[–] m532@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Limits personal freedoms only for the owning class. If you're not a landlord or ceo you have nothing to fear.

[+] Liberteez@lemm.ee -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

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[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago

How are you going to secure your commune from external enemies without invoking authority?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago

The Black Book of Communism was debunked long ago, from including Nazis killed during World War II as "victims of Communism" to literally making up numbers to get to 100 million dead to being outright disproven once the Soviet Archives were opened up.

There were excess deaths, but Communist leaders weren't mindless butchers, either. And with the introduction of Socialism came numerous benefits for the working class, like a doubling of life expectancy, tripling of literacy rates to 99.9%, free and high quality education, healthcare, and childcare, an expansion in women's rights, a democratization of the economy, and much more.

Anarchism is a beautiful idea, and I used to be one. However, I am more convinced of Marxism, namely because we have more data that shows the success of Marxism, and because hierarchy and centralization are requirements for expansive infrastructure projects like high speed rail and for complex production, such as for smartphones.

I have an introductory Marxist-Leninist Reading List you can check out, if you'd like to learn more.

[–] m532@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 days ago

Yeah I didn't consider the nazis but they are just lackeys for the landlords and ceos so I mentally put them in there. Ofc nazis have to fear communism too.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

All this things sound great, we just need humanity to not be shitty to each other.