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[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Generative AI is colloquially used to refer to AI which you prompt in natural language to produce some stuff for you. If you prompt some AI to make music or protein sequences for you then that is generative AI too. It is a loose term and not something that AI scholars agree upon but it is not meaningless.

[–] pcalau12i@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Generative AI is colloquially used to refer to AI which you prompt in natural language to produce some stuff for you. If you prompt some AI to make music or protein sequences for you then that is generative AI too. It is a loose term and not something that AI scholars agree upon but it is not meaningless.

Again, you only proved my point as you gave me a definition that applies to things like OCR, translation software, and voice recognition, which people wouldn't colloquially categorize as generative AI. You cannot provide a definition that gives the kind of carve-out you want because it doesn't exist, and any attempt to do so only solidifies my point further. The carve-out is ultimately arbitrary, it is just an arbitrary list of AI people don't like.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How does translation fit this definition?

[–] pcalau12i@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Because you use a prompt in natural language to produce some stuff for you...? In this case a translation. There are already entire companies who sell entire books translated using AI and there's a lot of them on Amazon. If "generative AI" were to refer to anything at all it seems strange you want it to exclude entire books generated by AI.

If you want to be strict about natural language actually being complete and grammatically correct sentences like we're talking here, then translation software is generative AI but some AI image generators like Stable Diffusion are not since they rely on you using a list of positive and negative tags and not sentences that you would speak. It would also mean that if I build an AI to send commands to a robot based on voice commands that would qualify as generative AI as well since it is producing the command output for me based on speech.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

ML driven translation existed well before ChatGPT did like Google Translate and DeepL

[–] pcalau12i@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes. You're beginning to understand. I'm glad.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Got no clue what you are trying to say