MeanwhileOnGrad
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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
What is a Tankie?
Alternatively, a detailed blog post about Tankies.
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Basic Rules:
Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.
Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.
Apologia — (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.
Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users as it handwaves their extremism.
Tankies can explain their views but may be criticised or attacked for them. Any slight infraction on the rules above will immediately earn a warning and possibly a ban.
Off-topic Discussion — Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post as opposed to arguing.
You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.
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The Tankie triad needs to be totally defederated.
They are growing increasingly extreme and have started planning troll farm type operations to make posts on normal instances and boost them with alt accounts.
I suspect the admins Davel and Cowbee are part of it.
They are either just desperate tankies or literal troll farm employees. Either way they are repeating CCP propaganda straight from the playbook.
do you have any evidence of this
Yes but it's all CIA propaganda
I've just been noticing a significant uptick in tankie posts on .ee and SJW since the Russian asset US president took office. It coincides with the uptick of Chinese propaganda that has hit the entire internet since the inauguration. China is spreading a lot of propaganda right now to usurp the US as the world leader while they drop the ball.
I think they are using those instances to try to push their rhetoric since the triage is defederated from a lot of instances already and is already known to be problematic
this isn't evidence. it's paranoid delusion.
I also forgot to include dbZer0n that list thanks for reminding me
If anything I've noticed it drop since the inauguration.
Or rather, since the election.
Hell yeah we do! Even just .world doing it would be a huge boon
Cowbee isn't an admin, but they are a major player id say. The big admins doing everything are Dessalines and Davel, and to a lesser extent cypherpunks
They will just use alt accounts. Honestly I wouldn't care that much if they just kept the tankie comments and posts on dedicated servers but they keep trying to spread it.
Maybe, but they'll have to do it on other instances turf where they won't have the advantage of an aligned-admin of a large instance to lean on
This is your mind when you mainline neoliberal propaganda like black tar heroin.
Understanding that the CCP has troll farms isn't a conspiracy theory.
A) 'troll farms,' also known as PR companies exist in all modern countries and most all major companies. They're not a feature of china or Russia. They're not something your supposed enemies are doing out of the evilness and dastardlyness in their hearts.
B) PR companies target wide range forums. There are more users on some BBCode forums for obscure games than the entire (actual) fediverse. There are more American users of Redbook than the entire fediverse. Even if you assume these evil scum just use one individual for their scheme of... Making anti Chinese propaganda look less reasonable... That would be more in wages than it costs to run the entirety of lemmy. Not to mention all other operational costs. We know roughly what these groups get paid, since they're public job postings (and get leaked like Israel's jidf when they're not). They're not cheap enough to was on an audience of, at most, 45k users from across the world, most of whom are already anti American, anti imperialist, and sympathetic to the morals of the CCP if not the actual country due to local propaganda efforts.