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The issue is that somebody kinda has to fill the vacuum if we want to have literally any hope at surviving our rapidly oncoming self-created climate disaster. I don't exactly love the PRC either, but you have to admit that right now, they are the ones best positioned to find and implement a technological solution to our crisis. It's certainly not going to be the U.S., Europe is going to have it's hands full trying to deal with Russia, do you think there's any other power strong enough or better than China even left?
If my options are the Chinese model, or the extinction of the human race, then I'll choose the PRC.
To add, Europe is generally a shadow of its former dominance, it doesn't have the ground to stand on its own without capitulating to a greater power. Either they continue to be vassalized by the US, they reach reconciliation with Russia (who currently does have the resources like oil and the industrialization to fulfill Western Europe's needs), or a pivot to China.
We can see this in how quickly the EU folded to Trump's tariffs, while also opening dialogue with the PRC. They are picking which of those two to really side with, even though they would prefer to keep it balanced, the US will not allow that.
There is no technological solution. There's only reduction of consumption.
Prc will not reduce.
Socialism certainly has a better capacity to tackle climate change than a dying Capitalist Empire like the US. We can see the PRC's green initiatives, from dramatic investments in solar and nuclear energy, to combatting desertification, it is by far the biggest player in the fight against climate change. It is better to cooperate with the PRC so that we can all push ourselves to be better, than pretend the US is better than the PRC.
Reduction of consumption at this point will not actually work, we're already too far down the path of annihilation. We're either going to need to find a way to manage our planet's climate ourselves, or we'll need to find a way to adapt our cities and lives to be able to survive in the coming world. Both of those require technological solutions. So far, we have not found a good one yes, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
According to actual science and not just your opinion, it still could theoretically work.