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I've been trying to find a good Marxist instance, but Lemmygrad and Hexbear are widely hated. Why is that? Are there any good leftist instances?

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[โ€“] pan_troglodytes@programming.dev -2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

tankies are not bastions of logical and rational thought. hexbear is way, way out there - about as divorced from reality as is humanly possible

[โ€“] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

smuglord tankies are not bastions of logical and rational thought. hexbear is way, way out there - about as divorced from reality as is humanly possible

[โ€“] felipeforte@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 1 year ago

tankies are not bastions of logical and rational thought

Apparently you aren't either, since you mindlessly use the term "tankie" when it doesn't mean anything. You've been conditioned to have an aversion to "tankies" when you aren't even able to accurately represent what this group defends, I'm sure.

When you're ready to think for yourself or if you feel like a "bastion of logical and rational thought", try to engage with us on Lemmygrad and see if you can point out the flaws of our "irrational and illogical" views. I'm pretty sure you'd be easily crushed in any debate. ๐Ÿ˜‰

We communists base our views on facts, on historical phenomena, not our feelings or wants.

[โ€“] Grimble@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

I bet you call yourself a "Deep thinker"

[โ€“] Dirt_Possum@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Tankies usually are bastions of political understanding though, whether you agree with them or not. They have to be to stand up to the mountains of propaganda we're all fed that people are trained since childhood to accept as "simply how things are." Many tankies only earn that title after developing a perspective that requires spending years reading, you know, actual books, on history and theory and working to honestly understand why things are the way they are, not how they wish they were, nor simply accepting what everyone is told for the sake of reinforcing existing power structures. Hexbear is way out there, yes, since the overton window is so ridiculously far to the right, by design, that it keeps most people from ever even understanding what leftism is. Hexbear is not divorced from reality so much as it is painfully hyper-tuned in to how dire reality actually is.