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[–] grue@lemmy.world 181 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Relevant to !selfhosted because one of the projects getting funding cut is Let's Encrypt.

[–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 140 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Let's Encrypt has done so much for encouraging the spread of HTTPS and good certificate practices. If they went away, I honestly think a good chunk of the internet would start breaking after ~6 months.

[–] gray@pawb.social 54 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Less HTTPS = easier government & advertiser data collection

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I’m pretty sure browsers don’t even load http sites anymore.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

When I spin up a new self hosted service it's easier to add caddy to the stack than to convince Firefox to load http.

[–] dparticiple@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

Tailscale is also ridiculously easy to use for this purpose. The serve and Funnel features make secure self hosting really easy from your tailnet (one can easily provision certificates for nodes using Let's Encrypt from the CLI: https://tailscale.com/blog/reintroducing-serve-funnel

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

HTTP works fine in Firefox unless you set it to HTTPS only. Even then, you only have to click off a warning to open an HTTP site.

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

But if you try to load a local resource as localhost in Firefox...

For the sake of completeness:

Firefox contains a security patch which restricts the kinds of files that pages can load (and methods of loading) when you open them from a file:// URL. This change was made to prevent exfiltration of valuable data within reach of a local page, as demonstrated in an available exploit.

More info: https://developer.mozilla.org/docs/Web/HTTP/CORS/Errors/CORSRequestNotHttp

Insecure, but fast fix, if you don't want to install a local webserver:

about:config
security.fileuri.strict_origin_policy
change to false

They load. I have to specify http:// to get it to work though.

[–] gray@pawb.social 1 points 1 week ago

I’m sure google will fix that in chrome, like killing adblocker functionality.

[–] dan@upvote.au 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

At least there's some competitors now, which could be used as drop-in replacements if Let's Encrypt were to disappear.

I suspect the vast majority of certificate authorities will implement the ACME protocol eventually, since the industry as a whole is moving towards certificates with shorter expiry times, meaning that automation will essentially be mandatory unless you like manually updating certs every 90-180 days.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 81 points 1 week ago

It’s okay, Let’s Encrypt only provides SSL certs for… 63.7% of the market?

Okay okay, that is a lot. But what does a CA need funding for anyway? It doesn’t take much bandwidth to send out new certs.

The only thing that could be expensive is if they had to rapidly invalidate thousands of certs to protect the security of the entire internet.

But haha, that’s a pretty outlandish scenario that would never happen.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm gonna have to donate then.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Same. I've been thinking about who to donate to this year, and it looks like they're making the cut. I'll probably also throw some money at my Lemmy instance and a handful of projects I use, including Tor, because apparently they got caught in the dragnet too.

[–] marauding_gibberish142@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which other projects caught your attention? I was going to donate to Graphene, EFF and some TOR operators

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Far more than I can reasonably support:

  • self hosted things I use - caddy, the document foundation, Jellyfin, Forgejo, etc
  • Android apps - F-Droid, NewPipe, Signal, RethinkDNS, etc
  • desktop apps - flatpak, For, Godot, etc
  • infrastructure stuff - let's encrypt, openssh, Linux distros (mine doesn't accept donations unfortunately), etc

But the short list for now is:

  • Let's Encrypt
  • Signal
  • F-Droid

And I'll probably run a Tor relay or something as well.

If only there was a decentralised tracker which would track project funding and give us metrics like which project is dangerously close to shutting down

Man, ReThink is such a lifesaver. It's so good people at Graphene recommend it. I might give Qubes some bucks too, they are awesome

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Well donating is good it's not going to replace the government funding.

[–] Cantaloupe877@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Every day just gets worse doesn't it.