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[–] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm not too worried. It will take practically forever to form a coalition but with the PVV as a major player it will be virtually impossible.

[–] Sodis@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Omtzigt just said, that he respects the voters and might jump over his shadow...

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

YesilgΓΆz said she thinks a majority with the PVV leading is not possible. Without her, PVV won't be governing.

[–] johan@feddit.nl 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Since when can the VVD be trusted??

[–] Vincent@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was a way to walk back on her former statement that she wouldn't join a Wilders government. It meant that she didn't think he'd convince other parties to join his coalition.

Which mostly depends on NSC. We'll see what they do, but I can imagine negotiations stranding and Timmermans getting a shot.

[–] johan@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A coalition without the PVV would be kind of ideal for Wilders. He can keep bitching about how undemocratic the other parties are (obviously it's not undemocratic but his voters won't understand that) and won't have to come up with any ideas. He can remain anti-everything and wait until the fragile coalition will inevitably fall, after which he'll win 50 seats in parliament.

As much as I would hate to see Wilders as prime minister, I would perhaps worry more about the next elections if he can remain in the opposition.

[–] Vincent@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Those 15 additional seats would have to come from voters who did not vote for him, getting angry about him not governing. If they wanted him in the government, why didn't they vote for him?

And this is especially true in the case of NSC, who've said multiple times beforehand that they'd rather not govern with PVV. If you voted for them, you can't (and probably wouldn't) really be mad at them for doing what they said they'd do.