The box I cobbled together from old pallets, dirt is a mix of potting soil and local dirt spiced with chicken poo.
For the more observant viewers, you may notice that the closest 'V' is slimmer than the upper square -- the pallets were a little short. I plan to plant smaller vegetables in those areas.
Yes. I had a friend that was able to get me a few for free.
From what I understand, that's dangerous for gardens. Old pallets have likely been subjected to some of the most dangerous carcinogenic chemicals over their life.
Depends heavily on what the pallets were for; many (realistically, probably the vast majority) pallets are disposable, and haven't been treated because it's not worth the cost
That’s an incredibly dangerous assumption.
Doesn’t matter if it’s treated or not, you don’t know what was spilt on it. Lots of stores have dangerous chemicals. Walmart has pool chemical and motor oil….
Don’t trivialize something just because you aren’t educated. There’s a reason why people are trying to speak up about it, and than someone like you goes and perpetuates this absolute bullshit.
Absolute bullshit seems a little harsh. Are you referring to evidence that this is actually a thing, or is this just something that someone realized could technically happen and decided it was worth spreading fear and credit for the attention?
Of course stuff could spill on a pallet, but the number/percent of pallets that actually get reused like this as a cross section of pallet loads of stuff that are damaged, with a further cross section of things that are damaged and dangerously poisonous and don't make the wood look or smell odd has got to be in the ballpark of odds of getting hit by a bus.
Just because something is plausible doesn't mean everyone should take the risk as a certainly, just like the possibility of getting hit by a bus should keep everyone on their side of the street.
I agree that it's a bit of fear mongering but it's for a garden that will be growing food for years. To use your analogy, the chance of being hit by a bus when crossing the street is tiny, but I still look both ways because of the tiny possibility that a vehicle is going to run a red light.
I'll add it to my microbiome of plastic.
Even just pressure treated wood is not recommended for veggie use.
The soil and water will leech chemicals out of wood and your veggies that you eat will absorb it.
I hate seeing all these crafts and people bringing the stuff in their houses, unless you source the pallets from someone trustworthy, they could have oil spilt on it for all you know.
Wood treated with Copper Azole is safe for garden beds. We've pretty much stopped using arsenic based compounds to treat wood. And plants don't tend to pull in copper (it's even used in some pesticides sprayed directly onto plants)
May not apply in your country*
And people use reclaimed wood all the time, unless you source it yourself, you have no idea unless the rating is still legible.
Also, some people avoid pesticides, so they would also want to avoid it in their frames too.
Copper is an essential plant macronutrient, so that’s just plain bullshit.
No more than they normally do. They've done studies on this. There's no extra copper in the plants due to the presence of this pressure treatment on the wood using copper azole
I never said there was…
There’s also additional chemicals to just the copper dude….
Copper is a macronutrient, you want in your soil. So I don’t know what point you’re trying to make here?
Uhh… you realize chemicals are vastly different than non harmful bug guts… yeah?
This may shock you, but you can actually Buy chocolate coated insects!!!… so “dangerous”…
Using these materials can actually be seriously harmful for your health. Don’t try to trivialize something you can’t comprehend.
Why do you seem to lean into the 'can't comprehend' angle? Someone could not be as worried about something as you are without being incapable of comprehending it.
Hey numb nuts, more than one country exists, and I don’t know the laws in other places. I’m not gonna talk Specifically about one country where it’s potentially safe, because other people from other places will see it, and think it’s safe. Bottom line, don’t use treated chemicals and used pallets in your home. Also noticed how for treated wood I said recommended? That does cover situations where you CAN use it too! Imagine that!
Yes copper is safe, but some people like to avoid all chemicals in their garden, not a hard concept to understand.
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It’s also funny you’re trying to mansplain lumber to a carpenter dude lmfao.
You’re the one that started talking about bugs when we were discussing chemicals. Look in the mirror mate. You’re the one that STARTED this BS, so don’t blame me for what you’re throwing incorrectly at carpenters.
You’re making the rest of us look bad, not the other way mate.
CCA is banned for ground contact construction. Pallets don't have that restriction, nor do you know that the pallet was made in the US where the law applies.
But CCA is the least of things to worry about. As I already said, pallets can be subject to spills of very dangerous chemicals.
WTF is wrong with you? Read my first post again. I didn't say pallets are made from old CCA, I said they are subjected to all sorts of dangerous chemicals over their life.
Then you failed to read the follow up post where I didn't say CCA isn't dangerous. I reiterated my claim in my original post that it makes it more dangerous than cca.
Do you understand the difference between a mild poison and a dangerous poison? Your earlier post makes it clear you don't understand that eating cockroachs is less dangerous than drinking benzene.
Shenanigans
It could be worse or possibly extremely dangerous. Micro plastics are only a concern because we don't know what long term effects they have.
On the other hand the arsenic used for wood treatment is dangerous enough that the USDA bans it for farms. Plus there's the risk of really dangerous stuff having spilled on pallets over the years like benzene.
Even a pallet from Walmart, motor oil or pool chemical spill on it, no way of knowing.
There is some places that do one time pallet use and wouldn’t be at risk, but I don’t think the majority of people are sourcing those.
Some people like to avoid ALL chemicals they can in their garden.
You can also just line the wood with plastic and it’s moot, but as a generic basic around the globe advice.
Dont use pallets or treated wood for crafts and stuff in your home.
CCA is banned for lumber designed for ground contact construction. Pallet wood has no restrictions. Pallets use in shipping means you don't even know what country it came from.
Stuff like telephone poles still use it I believe. At least in Canada. Railroad ties too likely.