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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Japan was expanding long before 1930's. Korea, Mongolia, and parts of China were already under Japan long before 1930.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago

Yeah that comment is wildly ignorant of Japan's actions and aspirations pre1930. Fuck Trump and these tariffs, mind you.

[–] coherent_domain@infosec.pub 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

But, the full scale invasion of China by happens around 1931, which then lead to the conflict that get China involved in WWII.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukden_incident https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Polo_Bridge_incident

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, full scale. But they already occupied parts of China before 1930. It wasn't tariffs for Japan. It was sanctions on oil to force them to stop invading. Their response was to speed up invasions to secure oil.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Which I suppose goes to the heart of why tariffs and export restrictions are bad. A country that is pushed into a corner where it will be deprived of an essential commodity is highly incentived to fight for it...

Edit: to be clear, not defending Japan at all. Just considering possible implications

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

While that sounds good, that's a reason to not sanction Russia for agression. The alternative to is to not do anything with aggressors.