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Russia was excluded from Trump’s sweeping tariff list due to existing U.S. sanctions that limit trade, White House officials claimed.

Despite lower trade volumes, countries like Syria were still included, prompting skepticism.

Trump has prioritized ending the war in Ukraine and threatened 50% tariffs on nations buying Russian oil. Russian state media framed the omission as sanctions-based, not favoritism, with some mocking Trump’s harsher stance on allies.

Ukraine, meanwhile, faces a 10% tariff despite the country’s strategic partnership with the U.S.

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[–] hansolo@lemm.ee -3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

FFS people, sanctioned countries were not included. Somalia, Burkina Faso....also not included.

Let them deal in baseless conspiracy. Please deal in fact here.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

However, nations with even less trade with the US - such as Syria, which exported $11m of products last year according to UN data quoted by Trading Economics - were on the list.

According to the Office of the US Trade Representative, the US imported goods from Russia worth $3.5bn (£2.7bn) in 2024. It mainly consisted of fertilisers, nuclear fuel and some metals, according to Trading Economics and Russian media.

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yep, it's fertilizer and related exempt at inputs. Prior to the war trade with Russian was closer to $30B.

The trade sanctions exist outside of tariff policy, so it's probably too complicated for ChatGPT (and therefore these clowns) to sort out easily.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Let them deal in baseless conspiracy

so it's probably too complicated for ChatGPT

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's a possibility that someone used an LLM to formulate the tariff percentages. That's not baseless, there's evidence based on replication and similar language in the USTR site.

Which makes it a funny joke to suggest that they did the entire tariff plan top to bottom in ChatGPT.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's also a much stronger possibility that Trump simply didn't want to piss off Putin.

Why are you trying to find a more complicated answer?

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Less complicated is:

"Tariff rates go brrrrrr"

"But it's hard to add this to sanctioned countries because it involves doing work."

'Then don't, lol, FTW. Tell Grok to leave them out."

Grok and all appointees involved are idiots

"Here's a list of important places that need tariffs."

[–] null@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And you're back to the "list was generated by AI" conspiracy.

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago

Well, this is an openly jokey theocratical comment, so yeah.

[–] drhodl@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Maybe the fertilizer president wants freedom of fertilizer?

[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 week ago

President Biden also took a lot of flack from Europe when he maintained trade in Russian uranium despite their putting rules into effect concerning Russian oil. There are a few things that both parties aren't willing to give us regarding Russia.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

FFS people, sanctioned countries were not included

Iran and Syria were included.

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And so were uninhabited islands. I'm not saying these people are geniuses. I'm saying that Grok probably said to skip sanctioned countries and they got that mostly right.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or, much more simply, Trump didn't want to make Putin mad.

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So then why did Somalia or Burkina Faso not make the list? Does Putin care about them? Not really.

Occam's razor here is pretty easy to see as "Sanctioned counties, and we missed two."

[–] null@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That wasn't a comprehensive list, just 2 off the jump.

So no, the simpler answer is that sanctions simply aren't a factor. They didn't list every country on the planet.

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sure, whatever you need to believe with no evidence to support it. At least a 80% correlation with the sanctions list mes a touch of sense.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Claiming that Trump is constantly kissing Putin's ass isn't a conspiracy. It's not even a secret...

Sure, whatever you need to believe with no evidence to support it

So where's your evidence that the list of countries was generated by AI?

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's a pretty comprehensive article on The Verge outlining the likelihood of it bring probable.

[–] null@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Still waiting for you to admit you were wrong.

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Right, because even though we both know you were wrong, you're too fragile to admit it.

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not fragile. I really do recall seeing an article about this, and digging into finding it to show that I was only wrong admit the citation and not the content of the comment and my heart. But thats a chore and I'm putting off spending time doing that.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trust me bro, I was right, I just don't feel like proving it.

Fragile little ego. So pathetic.

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Turns out it was an NY Times article, which you are free to search for yourself because this thirsty for attention wannabe troll shit can fuck right off.

Fun fact: Being abrasive and needing someone else to spoon-feed you the exact baby food you want isn't a great way to go through life.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Turns out it was an NY Times article

No it wasn't, you're lying again.

needing someone else to spoon-feed you the exact baby food you want isn't a great way to go through life

Asking people for sources for their outlandish claims is "being spoonfed baby food" now.

Jesus, you'll really do anything but just admit to being wrong. It's so cringe.

Look, you came into this thread trying to dunk on people, got proven wrong, pivoted and doubled down, got proven wrong again and you just can't seem to handle that fact. We both know it. Just admit it and take the L.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 days ago

Come on, it's not that long. You must have seen how utterly wrong you are by now.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 0 points 5 days ago

Did you read it yet?

[–] null@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Lol the irony...

Of course I know what article you were talking about. Go ahead and read it again and then quote me where it says anything about generating a list of countries that somehow leaves out Russia.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Why? Isn't that the easiest lowest hanging fruit possible?