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I realize that's what it was at face value but the reality worth keeping in mind is that one side would have likely been more open to continued pressure to shift stances after the election, but felt like they had to say certain things publicly prior to the election because this country spent the past 30+ years ejecting anyone that didn't fully back Israel.
People only started caring enough to make this an issue within the past year. I'm not trying to shift blame or apologize for the system, but in what world can that sort of political entrenchment combined with the drawn out multi year election cycle be completely undone within a single election year?
This was all set in motion in 2016 and whats happening now is just that boulder coming to rest. Entire generations have been born and died (and/or murdered) in this prison.
I don't believe this at all, if it's true can you tell me what makes you think that? Because neither the Biden or Harris campaign gave me any indication that they would stop arming and defending this genocide
They were the only side concerned with ever having to win an election again. I don't think the literal insurrectionist side is concerned with public opinion that disagrees with them.
Plus, Trump is supporting Israel wiping Palestinians off the map (he literally made that video about turning it into a resort), and will probably support Israel if they try to start consuming Lebanon and Syria (which they already have been for a really long time in case you didn't know). You realize if they cease to exist, there's a literally 0 chance things get any better.
I didn't say it would be a magical fix, I was just saying relatively speaking. Also sometimes shit takes time, I've had to wait 14 years to watch Syria finally rid itself of that asswipe bashar. Anything above zero is better than zero. Having to make that choice is why I was born here and not in another country you might be able to take a guess at.
In fact I watched the entire Arab Spring unfold (on Aljazeera where they actually covered it) and saw the same people now on the side of ending the Palestinian genocide, be against Obama helping intervene in support of the oppressed people of those countries who were getting massacred by western weapons used by their fucked up genocidal leaders, while said people were literally begging us for help. I watched France be the one to take the lead and say they would establish the No Fly Zone if the US didn't, when the hand wringing was going on for weeks and the rebels taking a heavy price for that delay, only afterwards would the US and other countries step in to finally help. Even then there was a ton of shit from the side "looking out" for arabs today and I took note of the utter lack of humanity in the words I heard being spoke, despite how polite and pleasant they were made to sound.
After Libya, there was no political will left to help in Syria, and the Syrian situation was just a bit too "messy" to get involved with, so the result was basically "fuck em"
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad people care enough to protest in the street about this shit finally, and I don't want to shut you down with the arab card or anything, just for real, I grew up with stories about this as a child. It fucking sucks but I can be realistic enough to know entrenched career politicians who've had to survive the "cant disagree with Israel" political purge that was basically ongoing until 2023, are going to turn on a dime in the last quarter of an election cycle. I'm down with all the change/improving the fucked up political system (assuming that's even an option anymore) but that hasn't happened yet, this was the old system, and it works a certain way or it doesn't work at all.
But I'm also not cynical enough to say the two options were in any way equal.
You are a privileged and racist piece of shit. They literally said and defended the US funding and arming Israel.
So your answer to my question "what made you think there was any chance Harris would stop arming this genocide" is vibes
You read between the lines and imagined some good intent on her part that wasn't there, it was just in your mind
Fuck you, no they wouldnt have you racist piece of shit. They literally said they will keep funding Israel.