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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I still stand by Generative AI being a useful tool. It's just in the hands of big unilateral corporate tech rather than a public state, and artists depend on IP laws to gain profits to live, rather than being supported by a robust welfare state to provide art for a robust public domain.

Related, the post-WWII programs in England that fueled the Rock-&-Roll boom in the 1960s (with the invention and development of the electric guitar). Socialized art is a system that works well!

And yes, we'll probably have to collapse the current civilization and rebuild it with mutant animals before we get there. < sad, disappointed existential dread face >

[–] LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It's just in the hands of big unilateral corporate tech rather than a public state, and artists depend on IP laws to gain profits to live, rather than being supported by a robust welfare state to provide art for a robust public domain.

The second situation is a fantasy until after we have a communist revolution. So, don't defend gen AI until after we create communism.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago

The second situation is a fantasy until after we have a communist revolution.

Only because it was taken from the public by Disney, since the courts ceased recognizing the public as stakeholders.

But the Constitutional function of copyright is to create a robust public domain. As that is no longer the function of copyright, we can abolish it. And the only thing that is keeping us from abolishing it is the same obstacles keeping us from abolishing autocracy.

So revolution that bridges the way to socialized art may be more necessary in the immediate future than it appears (whether or not it's easy).

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

I agree, I think generative AI is insanely cool technology (and if a new local one comes out I'll probably play with it for a bit) but I can't see image generation at least ever being a net positive for humanity until we get some sort of welfare state.

Currently the negative effects are mitigated by it being relatively easy to tell ai images apart from real images, and since ai images take almost no effort to make, they have naturally become an instant sign marking low effort content wherever they are used. When people stop being able to tell ai images apart is when it will start to become a problem.