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Woman strangled during overnight visit with her husband at a California prison
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You didn't really answer my question.
By instead, I meant instead of sending people for prison (possibly for life.)
"Reducing the prison population" still involves sending people to prison, possibly for life. What should we be doing instead of sending people to prison before we live in a society where people don't commit crimes worthy of incarceration?
I'm sorry I have to be so specific with you, it feels like I'm talking to a genie lol.
Well I literally said we can keep the prisons open while we build the hospitals and schools. There's no where else to put people who are a danger to themselves and others.
Also, we can definitely redefine what a "crime" even is; so many people are locked up that don't need to be.
To be clear, since you don't seem to understand what I'm saying, I'm saying that hospitals and schools replace the prisons. In a just society, antisocial behavior would be treated with rehabilitation in hospitals and reeducation in schools. Again, the hospitals and schools replace the prisons.
I'm sorry that I keep repeating myself but it seems like there's some fundamental disconnect with what I'm saying that you don't seem to be understanding. Are we communicating through translation software?
So... we go all the way back to my previous point where I said you think it's okay to imprison people for life even with the possibility that they are innocent.
Stay on topic.
No, I understand exactly what you're saying. You know it's stupid to argue "the death penalty isn't ok because sometimes people are innocent" while saying "but it's okay to lock them up for life even though sometimes they're innocent." Instead of owning your incorrect stance, you try to pivot and derail to something else to avoid admitting you're wrong.
Do you see how difficult it was for you to admit it's necessary to lock people up? That's because you knew you were wrong, but tried throwing as much shit at the wall to see if you could get away with it.
Lol, me too! I have to keep repeating myself because you don't want to admit when you're wrong. So you just keep saying the same thing in slightly different ways or throwing in distractions thinking it's going to get you different results.
I said to keep the prisons open until we replace them. That necessarily means we aren't imprisoning people for life, because the prisons will close. We just hold them for the length of time it takes to replace the prisons with schools and hospitals.
Get it?
Also I don't know where you got the idea that I actually support life imprisonment? I only said it's better than the death penalty.
I keep repeating myself because you seem to be willfully misunderstanding me over and over.
Sure. If we happen to migrate to this fabled society of yours where prisons aren't necessary before people currently in prison die. But until we reach your fantasy, (which could be a LONG time) you admit that "you think it’s okay to imprison people for life even with the possibility that they are innocent."
All the schools and hospitals in the world aren't going to stop people from harming each other. Get it?
Oh my god, we're just going in circles now. Re-read my previous comment for why you're incorrect.
I'm going to have to ignore you now because I've said everything I needed to say and you're just proving me right again and again. You know your argument is weak, so you're afraid to stand by it. You keep pivoting to something else to obscure the fact that you're wrong.
You may need to work on your reading comprehension, too. I suggest taking a remedial English course at your local community college.
Thanks for showing me that people like you don't actually have a leg to stand on when saying the death penalty should be abolished. You're living in a fairy world while pretending it's reality. It makes sense that you'd think "schools and hospitals" could replace prisons, lol. How many schools? How many hospitals? You know people still commit crimes when going to nice schools and having access to nice hospitals, right? Lol.
Reeducation and rehabilitation you stupid shitbag, why is this so hard for you to understand?
Talking to you is self harm.