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    [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 24 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    Nothing wrong with CLI. It is fast and responsive.

    Unless you want mainstream use. Because the majority of people can't even use a UI effectively. And CLI is much worse.

    [–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    Its also repeatable. Usually the same commands and ways work on the majority of systems. If you want to do that with a GUI you have to refresh a tutorial etc. Every time they change the UI. With CLI commands this usually isn't the case.

    [–] nfreak@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

    This is the core of the argument. You can't expected the average casual user to use CLI at all if you want mainstream adoption. The vast majority of people can barely operate Windows as-is, telling them to use a Linux CLI would be asinine.

    [–] camelbeard@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    There was a time before Windows where a lot of people used MS-DOS and it was all terminal. Maybe computers where less popular back in those days because of the learning curve, but still many people used a PC with just the terminal.

    [–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 days ago

    Computers were definitely way less popular, and if you are an office worker you not only had the Baseline level of Education of an office worker but you probably received Technical training, and there was probably an IT department who could help. You might have also only know in just the things you specifically need for your job

    [–] nfreak@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

    Oh absolutely. We're in a very different age today though. Like hell I can't imagine either of my own parents understanding the basics.

    [–] thevoidzero@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Yup. I made a scientific analysis program. Using CLI and your own editors you can do so much. And instead of focusing on making the algorithms, I had to focus on making a GUI for months because people need things to click.

    And then even with very responsive and easy GUI, with like just 5 types of "views" and probably like <5 buttons/inputs each, people are like "it seems complicated" within like 1 minutes of demo. They haven't even tried to use it or tried to learn anything. I even modeled the views to be as similar to another software they use.

    I feel like people just don't like computers.

    [–] mr_satan@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

    I'm a programmer and I definetly don't like computers.

    [–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

    Exactly. Most things need to optimize for the lowest common denominator of understanding, and buttons with words and fields that have explicit purposes and positioning are a much easier starting point than "use command -help and figure out the syntax yourself," even if someone who learns the syntax could then possibly be more efficient at using it.