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It sounds classy (lemmy.world)
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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 109 points 5 days ago (2 children)

If instead of ignoring meaning, we ignored cultural context, Lucifer is a great one. Sounds nice, means light bringer.

[–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The cultural context on this is weird, because it's even used for Jesus in the book of Revelation.

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Do you have a source for that? I'm curious.

[–] egrets@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Revelation 22:16

Wikipedia has a very thorough write-up on Lucifer as a name in the Bible, though it doesn't directly mention the Revelations chapter.

It's worth noting three things:

  • The Isaiah usage is from Hebrew הֵילֵל בֶּן־שָׁחַר Hēlēl ben Shāḥar, "bright son of the dawn" or "bright son of the [Canaanite] god Shāḥar'" - the Greek and subsequent Latin translations meaning "light-bearer" or "morning star" should be taken with a grain of salt.
  • The Revelations usage is from Greek ὁ ἀστὴρ ὁ λαμπρός, ὁ πρωϊνός o astír o lamprós, o proïnós, "the bright and morning star".
  • I'm not aware of any material conceptual link between the two. They were written nearly a millennium apart, so there's plenty of cultural shift and difference in linguistic context.
[–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 10 points 5 days ago

“I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give this testimony to you for the churches. I am the root and descendent of David, **the bright morning star**.” - Revelation 22:16

[–] mattd@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago

Luci as a nickname, of course