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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hamas isn't in power in the West Bank.

[–] Guydht@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They have the PLO there and no siege. A/B areas are not under this law since they're not under Israeli rule.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except whenever the settlements decide to expand they bring Israeli laws with them. Which is 100 percent a war crime. Or an act of war if you want to pretend the West Bank is a separate country not under occupation.

[–] Guydht@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those expansions of land and laws are into C areas, which is by the Oslo accords the property of Israel. Now, you can question the legitimacy of the C areas as stated by Oslo, but those terms were agreed upon by the PLO and Israel. It's a fucked up situation that Israel gets most of the uninhabited land, but that's what's been agreed to by both parties. If the peace talks would've continued and Rabin wouldn't have been murdered, and the Intifada wouldn't have happened, maybe those C area settlements' expansions wouldn't have happened.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel has long ago broken any accord they made with Palestine. Those agreements were predicated on respecting the sovereignty of Palestine and the decades long blockade and occupation of anywhere they want to be means that accord is dead.

You don't get to ignore a treaty while demanding the other party respect it.

[–] Guydht@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So did Palestinians break it... Israel is far from innocent, but Palestinians are even less so. Rewarding families of terrorist suicide bombers isn't really sending "let's do peace" vibes. Bad behaviour drags bad behaviour, and that's true for both sides.

People wonder why Israel expands their settlements, when the Palestinian leaders show 0 interest in not even doing peace - but even acknowledging the existence of Israel.

It takes 2 to tango, and violence brings violence. That's true to both sides - and if you count who started the aggression, Palestinians are almost always the first to escalate that aggression.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

you really should actually look up some history, and none of the shit that blames the Palestinians for every conflict Israel got into (especially ones Israel starts)

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao, yes. All Palestinians are suicide bombers or their family. Your racism is showing.

[–] Guydht@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Dude what? When did I say that? I literally wrote "Palestinian leaders"

You either don't seriously read my comment or just have nothing good to say and act petty.