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[–] Ethalis@jlai.lu 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't know, I might intellectually understand that morals are relative to a culture and that even our concept of universal human rights is an heritage of our colonial past and, on some level, trying to push our own values as the only morality that can exist. On a gut level though, I am entirely unable to consider that LGBT rights, gender equality or non-discrimination aren't inherently moral.

I don't think holding these two beliefs is weird, it's a natural contradiction worth debating and that's what I would expect from an ethics teacher

[–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That's because there are 2 general schools of thought in ethics - relativism and absolutism. Relativism (the idea that morality is intrinsic to the person's experience and understanding) is the one that seems to be the most talked about in general society. I believe in absolutism, the idea that there is a set of guidelines for moral behavior regardless of your experiences or past.

Your example (more formally known as the paradox of tolerance) is what convinces me that absolutism is the better school of thought

[–] sloppychops@lemmy.ca 0 points 20 hours ago

I can't help but be struck at how cowardly 'moral relativism' seems. Yes, you could potentially offend or step on someone's toes if you express moral outrage at the practice of childhood genital mutiliation, for example, but are you truly opposed if you are willing to contextualise said opposition? If you have a strong moral objection to something, then have a strong moral objection.

There are 8 billion people, and not all of them are going to or have to agree with you. There's absolutely no need to play the chameleon to keep everyone happy.

If your moral objection to something isn't universal, then it isn't an objection.

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

an heritage

Who pronounces it as 'eritage

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 2 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I'm gonna guess French people

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

That's so objectively morally reprehensible

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Being Fr*nch is a choice. It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Oui-ve

[–] Ethalis@jlai.lu 1 points 22 hours ago