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suprise raid in which civilians and children were the only targets and people were raped abducted and tortured.

The stupid lie that civilians were the primary target is still a lie, and is still stupid. Hamas has taken videos of it's members destroying tanks and other armored units, and stealing some of them during the raid. Before the raid Hamas got Gazans who were willing to fight to go with them too, and those radicals most likely are the ones who targeted civilians, Hamas militants may have targeted civilians too, but civilians weren't the primary target.

Still, I see a difference in a military bombardement, where civilians were warned to leave the area beforehand and a suprise raid in which civilians and children were the only targets and people were raped abducted and tortured.

So you think that this one raid is worst than the many that are carried out routinely against Palestinians? Or are we gonna just ignore those for now?

The difference is that the IDF can do these stupid things to save face, while Hamas cannot. The difference between typical terrorist groups and the IDF/whole "Israeli" government has always been their capabilities.