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[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Only if I buy a Tesla.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Yes, you are the villain here.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Holy shit. Did you just invoke Martin Niemöller in defense of a Nazi?

Unbelievable.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

No. I invoked it to highlight the absurdity of this line of thinking: that it is somehow acceptable to damage the property of a worker who may be completely innocent.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

It's absurd because there is no slippery slope. People are not going to start torching Ferraris or burn windows 95 CDs.

It's offensive because you are using it to defend an actual Nazi.

Is it somehow acceptable for Elon to damage the lives of millions of worker who may be completely innocent?

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

See you keep saying "defending a Nazi". I keep saying "you're torching the personal property of people who are not Elon Musk and who likely innocently bought the vehicle". If you're just going to talk right past me and start talking about Musk when I'm talking about individual workers, I don't see how this is a real conversation at all.

But just to be clear: torching Teslas that Musk already got paid for does not hurt him.

Just to be clear: torching Teslas that Musk already got paid for does hurt him.

  • Less people are going to buy vehicles that are often vandalised (by torching or other means) and cost more to insure.

  • Demand for Teslas goes down.

  • Less Teslas are sold.

  • Tesla makes less revenue.

  • Less dividends in the future.

  • Lower share prices now.

  • Musk loses money.


Trying to claim this isn't true = defending Nazi interests.

Individual workers should blame Musk. Not protesters.