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[–] TheOriginalGregToo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The difference being the IDF has consistently gone to pretty significant lengths to warn civilians and give them time to evacuate. Hamas has not and in fact specifically targets civilians. These groups are not the same.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The difference being the IDF has consistently gone to pretty significant lengths to warn civilians and give them time to evacuate.

True, but then to bombard from the air destroying whole buildings and killing many civilians to get to a few combatants under the building is not an ethical or moral move either. You don't get a get out of jail free card for notifying up front, you have to follow through.

Telling someone to evacuate is not enough, you have to verify they have evacuated. If they have not, you should be instead sending in ground troops, and yes with a larger cost in lives and political turmoil, but that is the ethical way.

Non-combatants are not supposed to be involved in combat.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Bullshit. There's evidence of some warnings but with literally thousands of air strikes a week there literally isn't the resources to warn everyone like they did during the "cease fire". And you don't get 10,000 civilians dead in a month by warning them.

[–] TheOriginalGregToo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Last I saw Hamas wasn't troubling themselves with giving ANY warnings. I'd say some>none. Where is the moral equivalence you so desperately want?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It doesn't matter how much you warn them if there's no military presence. The warnings they do give are nothing but a fig leaf to cover up war crimes

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Hamas supporters hate this one trick!