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I really don't get these people. This guy sounds and looks as phoney as they come. How dumb do you have to be to fall for his act?
Same. I keep saying the right wing Conservatives have failed us, so why do you think the even more right wing Reform will be any better?
We need proper left representation, but we need a media that isn’t pushing for right wing policies.
I don’t ’get these people’ either. But clearly, popularist politicians everywhere do get them. All their lives they’ve heard promises from the ‘traditional’ left and right wing parties that have made little impact on their daily lives that they can see. They’re still in a terrible job, still hearing the media rattling on about how terrible things are, etc.
So they’re ripe for the taking when someone comes along, tells them that the promises they heard from others are trash, that this new person knows who or what is really to blame, and luckily. It’s a group that’s easy to scapegoat and ‘other’.
The average Reform voter's unhappiness isn't a matter of 'scapegoating an other' over a media construct.
The consequences of the electorate refusing to accept this will only cause Reform's voter base will grow.
That’s valid. I vastly simplified things I know, and there’s lots I don’t understand about it. People want to feel heard and they aren’t getting that from most of the traditional political parties.
I’ve voted both Labour and (in the past) conservative in my time and I think both parties are currently guilty of taking a lot of things and a lot of people for granted who expect better.
They provide simple answers to their problems. Easy scapegoats. My ex thought highly of Farridge, Yaxley Lenton, etc. He thought Trump wasn't really racist, but was playing some kind of 4D chess to get the racist vote so he could drain the swamp.
My ex was pretty intelligent when it came to other things, but he fell for every lie coming out these grifters' mouths.
One thing that's significant: he still uses Facebook. Social media amplifes the right. It's weird how on a completely non political video in incognito mode, YouTube will dish up right wing videos. You can watch one seemingly innocuous video and the next thing, you'll get flooded with more and more extreme right content and before you know it, you're far right.
It's clear that my ex, and another colleague I had who's into the right, parrot the same talking points they see on twitter and Facebook (classic one was parroting Musk's civil war predictions during the Southport riots). They're both anti establishment, without realising the people they admire ARE as establishment as they get.