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‘A spectacle to horrify the world’: what the papers say about Trump and Vance’s meeting with Zelenskyy (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 1 week ago by Powderhorn@beehaw.org to c/news@beehaw.org

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I've still not seen the video, and I see no reason to. But it's worth noting that when the media unite around how shitty something is, it might be shitty.

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[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

None of this is existential for russia. It's all in putin's scrambled mind. Even if russia gets pushed completely out of Ukraine including Crimea; even if Ukraine joins NATO and there are US airbases and nukes every mile along the Ukrainian border with russia, none of it is existential. NATO exists as a response to russian aggression and imperialism, not to invade or defeat russia. It's only russia creating the false equivalence between "you won't let us invade other countries" and "you want to invade us". If russia could be trusted not to invade then NATO wouldn't be needed at all.