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[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I simultaneously want to comment that the left panels are a wild fantasy, as I've never seen an actual human say that we should focus on plastic straws. As far as I can tell, that's propaganda put into the world by companies trying to discredit genuine efforts.

But at the same time, it's not even like you have to focus on straws. You can simply not use them, because it is just a stupid concept to produce something that's immediately trash, and then also go and do other things in life. Believe it or not, most activities in life don't involve straws.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Straws become the focus because people like them and find them useful and make them a part of their culture and then proposed bans threaten to take them away. People do focus on them, I've seen plenty of online arguments about straw bans and the ethics of straws, which happens because they are a part of the lives of the people arguing about them, unlike fishing nets which they never use or see.

There is a side of environmentalism that comes off as being smugly superior about your lifestyle and disparaging and seeking to shame and control in small ways (usually poorer) people who don't live that way, with the pretext that it's about saving the planet. To me that sort of thing seems like it's mainly just a dumpster fire of political capital, purely counterproductive.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There's a smug side to anti-environmentalists where they like to pretend they can't do anything because they're a little bit poor. And that it they couldn't possibly do anything.