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Something that I realized about the fediverse is that you seem to be able to criticize the USA as a whole, but if you criticize the Democrats you get downvoted. Democrats suck they are not sacred cows (lemmy.ml)

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

Vote as far left as possible all the way up, if it ends up as trump v clinton then it should be the lefter of the two.

And Democrats will always take advantage of that. They supported genocide last election. How much further to the right are they going to go? Because they will never move one Planck length to the left.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

But if they consistently win it still alter the political landscape such that someone else will have a better chance of enacting actual change in the future.

The two party system is garbage, but if one of the two current parties lost its ability to win entirely then a different second option could appear.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Agree. Within legal means, this is the only way to shift the Overton Window back left. When Democrats are secured from Republicans, then we should be pushing for more progressive options. Democrats would not be expanding the concentration camps like the Republicans are.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 10 minutes ago

Fuck legal means, this is yer problem its all pride and democracy this until its dismantled in front of ye. Taking the high road has given ye a petulant retard as a leader. Maybe throw "legal" out the window, they did.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world -1 points 14 minutes ago (1 children)

Push the party left and then vote for them. I would personally rathwr have useless weasels in power over soulless ghouls intent on stripping the country bare

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 11 minutes ago* (last edited 10 minutes ago)

Push the party left and then vote for them.

Yeah, that was the line about Biden. He supported genocide instead of moving left.

I would personally rathwr have useless weasels in power over soulless ghouls intent on stripping the country bare

Or anyone interested in fixing anything.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone -2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

okay so what’s your next step? because letting the right win has to be the stupidest ever way to influence change to the left

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 53 minutes ago (1 children)

because letting the right win has to be the stupidest ever way to influence change to the left

Maybe the party shouldn't have done it then. There will never be anything that will get Democrats to move to the left. You know it. You love it. It's why you're gloating with your spoiled milk analogy.

[–] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 39 minutes ago (1 children)

No, he asked for a next step. Because leftists can't get a win.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 12 minutes ago (1 children)

Because leftists can’t get a win.

Oh, you gonna gloat too? Ok, hows about the party hold honest primaries for fucking once. Or primaries at all? How's that for step 2? Then again, since you love your sour milk, that's a nonstarter too.

[–] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 minutes ago

You're a bit weird, I'm still not talking about Democrats, I'm talking about leftists.

What can leftists do to get a win?