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[–] MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip 49 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Why does Israel want to have the Middle East in chaos?

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 98 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fascist leaders need a constant threat to justify their leadership. If Israel cannot continue to escalate and create the image of being at threat, it also will cast doubt on the support they received and receive and it will make people speak up more about their crimes.

To appear as the perpetual victim, you need perpetual violence, so you need to perpetually attack other people.

Also Israel has the vision of a "Greater Israel" empire spanning from Egypt to Saudia Arabia to Turkiye and Iraq. Not only will this require the ethnic cleansing and genocide of hundreds od millions of people in the region, but also it will need to be filled with more non-Jewish white settlers, for instance US Evangelicals, as Israel doesn't have nearly enough population to maintain such an empire.

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago

Excellent summary. I believe you hit all the main topics.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago

"Look international community - all our neighbors are failed states... I guess that means it'd be more humane if we helped govern them?"

That's why.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Divide and conquer, like every coloniser in history.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago

They are doing the "divide" part really poorly these days.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The more extreme elements of the Israeli government want to expand Israel to the borders of the previous empire at its biggest (not sure if that's based on biblical sources or actual reality, but that doesn't matter to those people anyway). Their ambitions go far beyond 'just having a safe country for Jews'.

And I guess if every country around them is in civil war they can't really pose a threat to Israel beyond the occasional suicide bombing.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The more extreme elements of the Israeli government want to expand Israel to ~~the borders of the previous empire~~ an imaginary kingdom based on lines of latitude given to these wackos by "god".

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago

The ~~more extreme elements of the~~ Israeli government want to expand Israel

[–] tostos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago