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And you're the kind of person that doesn't reason with his own head but feed on whatever government and media says. The same governments backing ukraine are backing israel in a genocide, they don't give a shit about ukrainian people the same way they don't care about children dying in gaza. Politicians only care about wealth and power, they don't fight their own wars. The war in ukraine is being fought by poor people slaughtering each others over invisible lines on a map.
Thats entirely beside the point.
You in your own country. your own family. youd just roll over for an invader?
thats what youre advocating. Immediate surrender and destruction.
I mean, if a loss is inevitable anyways, why lose our lives along with the war?
Why buy into propaganda that only serves Western interests at the expense of Ukrainians' lives?
Ukrainians die, Westerners get money for their MIC and have fewer Russians to worry about.
Ukrainians really should be asking themselves if it was smart to fall for western propaganda. Ukraine has always been a tool for the West, nothing more.
Last year the Russia was advancing faster than expected. During the whole year they managed to conquer 0.7 % of Ukraine's total area. Less than one percent. And that's their "fast".
Their recruitment capacity is 25 000 to 35 000 soldiers per montg, which tranalates to roughly 1000 per day. And losses (dead+wounded) have been mostly around 1800 per day.
Recent video footage shows almost no Russian tanks but only light DIY vehicles.
Even if Ukraine was to lose all western military support, the Russia would not be able to advance faster than 10 times the speed of last year. And that would be 7% of Ukraine's total territory. Not enough for victory.
The Ukrainian economy is so small that EU countries would have no problem covering 100% of its budget. Ukraine's economy will therefore survive indefinitely. The Russia's won't.
Time is strongly on Ukraine's side. They can lose only if the west withdraws all support. We're not stupid enough to do that.
So, as you said: Since the Russia's loss is inevitable, why continue wasting their lives?
I don't think this is the case. You're ignoring the fact that real people are dying and eventually that's going to be too much for one side to bear. Right now, it looks like that side is going to be Ukraine. I don't want it to be the case, but reality is reality.
Lol. Honestly, I have no idea what could encourage Russians to start and continue this war. They must be seeing entirely different things than us, which I think we could only see if we spoke Russian and hung out in Russian-speaking areas.
Ukraine's losses as dead are lower in proportion to population than those of the Russia. As dead+wounded they are higher, but that's relevant for the army, not so much for the nation. The severely wounded typically need a prosthesis, but will stay in the lives of their children.
Add to this that Ukraine is the defending party in the war, so they would be able to incur even higher losses without breaking than the aggressor has to bear with.
If you mean civilian casualties... Most of those are in the occupied territories. The terror attacks do kill people, but that is statistically insignificant. The Russia has been able to kill only a fraction of a percent of Ukraine's civilian population. That is not something that has any effect on the war's outcome. The terror attacks against civilians might have some strategic function in Putin's head, and it does have an effect by reducing western countries' willingness to support Ukraine, but in Ukraine itself it has no real effect and seems to be happening "just for fun" (as macabre as that sounds).
The Russia's army is in much deeper trouble with manpower than that of Ukraine, and civilian population is statistically not in any immediate danger in either country.
(And I do believe I understand quite okay how the Russian mind works because when I lived in Ukraine, I learned both Russian and Ukrainian languages reasonably well, and can therefore follow their sources in original language)
State propaganda makes you believe that not having an authoritarian ruler equals to surrender and destruction. People actually are capable of defending themself better without rulers forcing them to fight.
Human rights should never be abolished, there are no conditions under which slavery is fine.
??? are you responding to an entirely different comment than mine, by mistake?
What do you think rolling over for an invader would do? bring you more freedom?
I'd wager life in Ukraine would be pretty similar to life in Russia if/when Russia takes over.
That means the disparity in wealth will still grow as quickly as possible, but Ukrainians will lose a lot of their freedoms of expression.
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