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CNN Made FOIA Request About DOGE—Only to Learn FOIA Staff Was Fired. (www.commondreams.org)

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"Definitely never seen this type of response to a FOIA request," quipped one journalist.

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[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

No, a false cognate is a word with similar sound and meaning but different origin/etymology.

Doge (of Venice) - duke - dux - duca - duce

All true cognates, he’s perfectly correct there.

There’s no similarity to the meaning of the doge meme at all. The word sounds the same and is spelled the same, but has a different meaning. Therefore not a false cognate. You might get to a false cognate if you make the connection that DOGE (government organization) is somehow a mid-level ruler of something, but as you say that’s probably giving Musk too much credit.

It could be a false friend though.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You might get to a false cognate if you make the connection that DOGE (government organization) is somehow a mid-level ruler of something, but as you say that’s probably giving Musk too much credit.

Right. That's the connection the guy I replied to was trying to make, that's what I called a false cognate, and you've now agreed with me that I was correct in doing so.

I never said that "Doge (of venice)" was a false cognate of duce/duke/dux. I said that DOGE of the fucking shiba inu meme/edgelord government wrecking agency was a false cognate of it.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

That’s the point I was trying to make:

It’s a weird thing because DOGE of government could be argued to be a false cognate because you could interpret it to have a meaning that was never intended…but you kind of have to stretch it.

And DOGE Shiba Inu as Musk intends it (shitty “fellow kids”/“hur hur space sex boring company” meme) is a false friend but not a false cognate.

But Doge as OP wrote it, he’s correct and it’s a true cognate.

Anyway, I think we’re pretty well in violent agreement and there’s not much else to say. Cheers!

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

Tangent: I believe I was taught in school false friends were cognates. Learned that on here a month ago.